TM SG-1, is it a good rifle?

[Beasthunter33]

I was just wondering if this was a good rifle and if anyone has any useful info. about it. My friend is thinking about getting it and as I don't have one I was hoping you guys could help him out. I have already searched google, so don't just tell me to go read some reviews; I want your guy's opinions.

Thanks.

[Maple]

My search-fu is strong:
http://linear.apisnetworks.com/wiairsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472

[RTO]

BIG RIFLE! hope he is taking into account his size when it comes to this rifle. This thing is long. It is not a run through the trees quickly, while firing at people, quickly, weapon by any means necessary.

From the two times i've used one, I've loved it both times. I would buy one for myself and make it into a LMG personally, but thats just my preferance. I've seen people just lay down on teh trigger before with this rifle, and it just keeps shooting out one, two, three, four, five hundred bb's, and just keeps on 'a rockin'.

Very fun to play around with and make "unique" also.

EDIT: and what maple says

[Maple]

Big rifle, bah! I run around with my M14 and can fire from a full out run. I'm only 5'7".

[Beasthunter33]

Thanks Maple for the post and for RTO reiterating it so it could sink in. ;)

[Beasthunter33]

Anyone know of any mid-caps for this rifle.

[Maple]

To the best of my knowledge, nobody offers a mid-cap for the G3 series.
But then again I may be wrong, but I don't feel like scouring the internet on somebody elses behalf. :o

[Beasthunter33]

I understand, thanks for all guyses (sp?) help, I apperciate it. I'm sure my friend does too.

[RTO]

maybe i'm about the same size maple.. but yeah, i hate bigger guns.. anything longer and a m16 a2 i'm kinda shaz up a creak w/o a paddle when it comes to running through densly brushed areas

[Texx]

I'll confirm that for you, there is currently no midcap offered for the G3 Series. G&P made some rumbling about two years ago, but that appears to be as far as they were willing to go. There are several other mags to choose from.

The PSG-1 "Locap" holds 15 rounds and fits all other G3 variants. I owned three of these mags and used them mostly for plinking. When playing CQB with my old "team" I was required to use these mags as the others were mostly armed with GBBs. They work very well. If you intend to do sharpshooting or precision shooting, they can be a good choice for switching to different ammo weights. ALso, they give you a good final "burst" should you run out of ammo.

The G3 Standard Mag holds 70 rounds. TM and CA make a Standard MAg and the CA mAg feeds just as reliably as the Marui. I owned TM 10 standards and all of them saw regular use. All of them were 100% reliable with little or no feeding problems. However, magazine capacity varies from 68-72 rounds. Just to be safe, I would hold of after you reach around 65, if you pay attention to the number of rounds you load. The CA Standards I owned two of to do field testing for a freind of mine. They worked every bit as well as my Marui mags, but only cost $15 each.

The G3 Hicap holds 500 rounds and is manufactured by G&G, CA, and TM. The CA G3 Hicap works ok, but like most previous CA hicaps, has some feeding and reliability problems. The Marui hicap, on the other hand is a real robust fighter. I had two Marui hicaps, one of which was accidentally dropped from a moving vehicle. It was dropped several times from a height of about 20 feet. Despite being scarred and dented all to hell, it still fed reliably. I don't know much about G&G's hicap as I really don't like hicaps.

There are Drum Mags, Box Mags, and several extended Hicap-type designs. The DFW E-Mag is an excellent choice. One model holds 800 rounds and has fake "bullets" ala the MP5K hicap. The other holds 900 rounds. Both resemble two mags clamped in a mag clamp. There E-Mags which are powered my battery either internally or by wiring a separatepower source or tapping you gun's battery. There is also a manual winding 900-round hicap in this style, but they have become somewhat rare.

I was hoping G&P was gonna release a G3 Midcap about two years ago, as they had promised. But apparently, they decided to back out of ythat design.

[Downslide]

My search-fu is strong:
http://linear.apisnetworks.com/wiairsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472


To the best of my knowledge, nobody offers a mid-cap for the G3 series.
But then again I may be wrong, but I don't feel like scouring the internet on somebody elses behalf. :o

Make up your mind, grasshopper. ;)

[perculator]

I love my SG-1 it is about an inch longer than the m16. but it is lighter than my friends aug, and is more evenly weighted than my friends G36c. I have found myself in the LMG role before and it seems to be a winner in that catagory.

[Bucket]

The PSG-1 "Locap" holds 15 rounds and fits all other G3 variants. I owned three of these mags and used them mostly for plinking. When playing CQB with my old "team" I was required to use these mags as the others were mostly armed with GBBs.

you did CQB with a G3?

[Maple]

How is a SG1 any different than any other AEG when in a "LMG role"? Sure, you can upgrade it so it can handle (somewhat) the pounding you'd give it if it was used as a LMG, but so can any other AEG. The AUG, M16 and M14 (to name the first 3 to come to mind) have longer barrels, the AK47 has a bigger hi-cap, so how did the SG1 suddenly become a good LMG.
unless you plan on doing a fair amount of work to any aeg, it is no better than most other aeg's when used as a LMG. In stock form, you are going to most likely burn out the gun relatively quickly if you hose the field down. And to the best of my knowledge, a LMG is used specifically for that purpose. Support fire.
Just my 2 pennies.
-maple

[Texx]

you did CQB with a G3?

Yep, I snatched the muzzle off my MC51. G3A4 and SG1to be exact. As seen below:
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http://willsroom.com/aopics/g3k.jpg
http://willsroom.com/aopics/g3k2.jpg

The warehouse my friends and I used to play in had a catwalk and a crawlspace above the office area. I was able to set up and snipe the other players. But they didn't much like the fact they were armed with Glock 18/19 and M11s, facing down a rifle with 70 shots per mag and full auto. So I went to the PSG-1 Mags and Semi Only. It's not like it would have mattered much you set up and wait for them to blow through their mags and hit them with one or two shots. It was like shootin ducks...only ducks armed with full auto GBBs that were fired in long stacatto bursts. One good burst and they were out.

When I got more AEGs, it was a little more fair, but I still mopped up with them, even with the MC51.

The G3A4 is a CQB king. But, if I build another A4, I'm gonna snatch the frontend off a CA33e which makes the overall length closer to an M4. You can play CQB with a full sized rifle. You just have to work on it. I'm not a little guy, so the weight of the G3 is not exactly a problem for me. With the collapsible stock, you have a very manageable AEG. The shortened muzzle also helps a bit as well.

[Stelthturkey]

The secound picture looks horribly freakish. The proportions are all messed up, but hey if it works, USE IT!

[Beasthunter33]

I agree with you there. I would much rather have a full stock and a short barrel for a CQB game where a long barrel isn't needed for accuracy but a full stock is nice for stability. But like he said if it works use it.

[Texx]

With the stock Extended, it was very sturdy. Usually, I had a Red Dot when it was in "G3A4" cofiguration. But even with that scope on it, the gun was super accurate. A 4x scope can work well for sharpshooting, provided you have your hop adjusted and the scope properly zeroed.

[Vanac]

Using a G3 SG1 in CQB is stupid anyway...its too large. I've tried it, it doesnt work out.

[Texx]

Using a G3 SG1 in CQB is stupid anyway...its too large. I've tried it, it doesnt work out.

Granted, its not the easiest weapon to use running around corridors, but that's also why I had the collapsible stock and the Rail up front for a RIS Grip. As for battery life with the G3A4, there are custom packs such as the "Torpedo" especially designed to fit int he G3A4 foregrip. I was going to mount an AN/PEQ on an RIS and get rid of the full stock altogether.

"Too large" is also subjective. Marines have been using the full size M16 for MOUT/CQB for over 40 years. They are able to use it quite effectively. Why? They don't have the option of always being issued weapons that might be more convenient. They are forced to work with what they've got. Not every airsoft has the luxury of having missions-specific AEGs. Sometimes, you just have to work with what you have and make the best of it.

[Vanac]

Yeah...luckily I don't have to have an issued weapon. Bring on the pistols.

[perculator]

I think the SG-1 with a drum mag and the bi-pod just looks like it should be an LMG.....Cosmetic