Operation Plague IV Zombie Event - October 24th - Apoc Paintball - Poynette, WI

[Kerrik13]

This thread is just a placeholder to let everyone know that Op Plague 4 will be taking place this year at Apocalypse Paintball in Poynette, WI on Sunday, October 24th.

I will be updating the website shortly with the new event info but wanted to get the date out to everyone ahead of time.
www.operationplague.com

More to follow... :)

http://www.operationplague.com/TeaserSplashOP4.jpg

[Kratthew D. Kraids]

*drool* I can't wait

[ArchEnemy]

*drool* I can't wait

hungry for the brains already? :D

[Kratthew D. Kraids]

hungry for the brains already? :D

lol you bet

[Willis_117]

Ho-lee-Fraak...I'm going to study up on my Copy of the Guide now. [Can't Wait]

[Phoenix]

I guess I should gas up my chainsaw, lock and load and grab the TWINKIES! BECAUSE ITS TIME TO NUT UP AND SHUT UP!! also to enjoy the little things in life SO SAW YOU LATER!!

[kyledk]

haha i have not been on the forums for a long time. im looking forward to this event(this time im going for a police set up, nothing funner then having only a single shell left in your shotgun and running for your life from a mob of zombies).

[Kerrik13]

Hey everybody,
Quick update here... the teaser trailer, created by Redleaf Pictures, is up on YouTube at the following link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qw_uZmasH8

Full event info will be released (currently just a graphic splash at www.operationplague.com) shortly. Thanks for your patience!

PS - The production crew that came out and filmed was for a new show called Bert The Conqueror. The show airs on June 16th on the Travel Channel... not sure when the Wisconsin episode will air though.

More updates shortly...

Thanks!
Ryan

[Spud]

LOL to the new trailer ryan...... the clip at the end with the army guy cussin out the scientist with no weapon expierence.....nice

[Kerrik13]

Haha yeah, and just so you guys know he did in fact do that on purpose. :)

The trailer was created by David Peng of Redleaf Pictures, a small start up company that will start doing DVD releases of upcoming event. Plague is his flagship DVD, but he is very interested in Freefall.... :)

More info coming soon... sorry, Breedland is coming up and that is the main focus (Go Domingo!)

[Superdestructive Sheep]

Can't wait for this one!
Gotta get my suit ready...

[Micanthropyre]

Small question: If I were to purchase the Mad Max double barrel shotgun, it is empty after you fire 2 shots. Under the rules, it says I can only have 2 mags, or 2 shell mags for shotguns. Does this mean that I only can carry 4 shells for the Mad Max shotgun?

4 shots is pretty limited, especially considering that you need to reload after the first 2. I guess I'd be hoping that I could carry a few more shells on me with this gun, and get 6-10 shots total.

[Kratthew D. Kraids]

you can carry two magazines/shells per weapon

[ArchEnemy]

you can carry two magazines/shells per weapon

actually i believe it was two extra. making it a total of three. or i think it was said that if you were a police officer you couldh have as many shotgun shells as you want. im not sure though. im sure kerrik will post soon enough.

[Kerrik13]

One mag in the gun + 1 spare is the standard rule set.

The double barrel weapon you are talking about... I'd have to take a look at it and how it fires. If it literally is just 2 shots, then I can make an amendment for that particular weapons. If you can link me to the gun so I can research it that would be great.


PS - I just noticed that the teaser splash says Oct 24th 2009.... doh! It is supposed to say 2010, obviously. :)

[Micanthropyre]

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_47&products_id=25041

Literally 2 shots. It works similar to an M203 shell, where the gas and the BBs are in the shell. However, it holds 6-7 bbs per shell. One BB chronos at 500fps, but with all 6 it chronos around 300, similar to the 5 shot shotguns.

It is quite possibly simultaneously the coolest and least useful gun you can purchase. I think it would shine as a pretty sweet gun in Plague, but having only 4 shots as per the game rules limits it.

[ArchEnemy]

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_47&products_id=25041

Literally 2 shots. It works similar to an M203 shell, where the gas and the BBs are in the shell. However, it holds 6-7 bbs per shell. One BB chronos at 500fps, but with all 6 it chronos around 300, similar to the 5 shot shotguns.

It is quite possibly simultaneously the coolest and least useful gun you can purchase. I think it would shine as a pretty sweet gun in Plague, but having only 4 shots as per the game rules limits it.

well because the chrono picks up all of the bbs and adds up all of the FPS i would recommend bringing a calculator. (i know this because i had a shotty last year and when i went to chrono it with a full shell it said it was shooting over 900 fps so i unloaded it and put one bb in it and then it was at a little over 300 FPS)

[Maple]

To get an accurate chrono reading, you should only have 1 bb loaded, plus a full load of gas. Theoretically (sp?) the gun may only fire 1 bb (whether on accident or purpose) and that is what can be potentially dangerous. If the gun (my fictious example weapon) fired 3 bb's at 320fps, but 1 bb at 450fps, it would not meet the generally agreed upon chrono standard.

With that said, it is still up to the event organizer of any game to dictate what chrono limits are being used and what weapons are considered acceptable.

[Micanthropyre]

To get an accurate chrono reading, you should only have 1 bb loaded, plus a full load of gas. Theoretically (sp?) the gun may only fire 1 bb (whether on accident or purpose) and that is what can be potentially dangerous. If the gun (my fictious example weapon) fired 3 bb's at 320fps, but 1 bb at 450fps, it would not meet the generally agreed upon chrono standard.

With that said, it is still up to the event organizer of any game to dictate what chrono limits are being used and what weapons are considered acceptable.

It is impossible for this gun to only shoot 1 bb unless you only load one.

[CODYC2]

If anyone is need a melee weapon "Sword" then follow this link and let me know if you would like to purchase one!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/CC-Swords/139563102728315

[Kerrik13]

Well boys, girls, and zombies, I have some good news and I have some bad news...

Bad News #1 - I made a mistake and put October 24th 2009 on the splash page... it is supposed to be October 24th, 2010. Woops! I apologize in advance if this caused any confusion, but the actual event info will be replacing the splash page very soon.

Bad News #2 - I received a call from the production company that filmed last year and the network executives at the Travel Channel cut out any Bert The Conqueror episodes that were not rollercoasters or waterparks... so the zombie episode will not be airing this season. If the series does not do well, it won't be airing at all. And the Travel Channel is not willing to hand over any footage either. I am so, so, so very sorry that the hassle of last year ended up being for nothing. Which leads me into...

Good News #1 - ... the good news! I've decided to add a positive twist to the whole TV show thing and there may be some special zombies on the field... like a production crew, possibly a network executive... that will be "undead pinatas". You find them, beat them up, and they will give you free stuff and goodies. Let out your aggression and get some free stuff! :) Also, for all the hassle, we'll try to throw in some more goodies and giveaways too.

Thank you all for being patient and the full event info will be up shortly.

[Sharpshot]

Any update on when the rules set will be coming out? I am curious to see what your rules for Automatic pistols like the M93R that have long mags as there stock mags are.

[Kratthew D. Kraids]

Any update on when the rules set will be coming out? I am curious to see what your rules for Automatic pistols like the M93R that have long mags as there stock mags are.

I'm sure the rules about firing modes is still the same from last year, semi-auto only! Unless you are using a SAW weapon of course, then it's short bursts. FPS limits will probably be the same too so even automatic pistols won't get by on this either.

[Kerrik13]

The M93R can be used, just not full auto. The longer mags are fine; I know they hold more but it isn't like a 300 round hi-cap or anything.

I apologize for the delay in the rules. I should have them up hopefully by the end of this week.

The classes will be changed around a bit for simplicity; the Police and Military faction will be a PRE-REG ONLY choice for the game. In order to limit the amount of firepower and make sure both halves of the day are evened out, I will be requiring a pre-registration for Op Plague for these two choices. Everyone else will just play civilians.

I will also be doing an incentive for dedicated zombies this year; anyone who wants to get into the event for free and have some fun as a zombie all day will get a free lunch, a chance for some zombie-only prizes, and one random dedicated zombie will get $100 in cash.

More to come soon...

PS - Oh, and most definitely NO support weapons... :)

[ArchEnemy]

wow that is some real incentive... i was thinking about going that route already because i am running low on funds and still needed a few (somewhat expensive) parts/batteries for my M4

[El_Phantasamo]

The M93R can be used, just not full auto. The longer mags are fine; I know they hold more but it isn't like a 300 round hi-cap or anything.


Hummm, "Black Betty", or 2 93R's......

Decisions Decisions....

[Rekkon]

What is this "or" of which you speak? Clearly you should carry all of the above.

Kerrik, what about 93Rs (and similar weapons) with three round burst?

[Paul@Apoc]

I believe it is 1 trigger pull 1 round is expended

[Cthuluman3]

Would an alice belt and suspenders be considered too military too be used for civilians? I was planning on running my battlebelt and molle suspenders, but considered the molle not that civilianish. Would an alice belt and suspenders be allowed?

[drat77]

Can you preregister now? The website says preregistration is over, but I'm wondering if that's out of date. If anyone knows the answer, that would be much appreciated.

[Kerrik13]

Hi everyone,

The website has not been updated with all the relevant info yet. I am getting married this weekend so updating the info for Plague is not my top priority.

The event will be in the $30-$35 range, pre-reg is only important if you plan on going Police and Military (the only factions that can use AEGs), and most of the game is centered around civilians with springers, shotguns, and gas pistols. 350 FPS is the max for this event due to the close range shooting.

If I get a chance to, I will get the updates soon but there is still plenty of time before this event. :)

[jlocopb]

Hi everyone,

The website has not been updated with all the relevant info yet. I am getting married this weekend so updating the info for Plague is not my top priority.

The event will be in the $30-$35 range, pre-reg is only important if you plan on going Police and Military (the only factions that can use AEGs), and most of the game is centered around civilians with springers, shotguns, and gas pistols. 350 FPS is the max for this event due to the close range shooting.

If I get a chance to, I will get the updates soon but there is still plenty of time before this event. :)


Congrats dude, and best of luck!

[Spud]

Congrats Ryan,

mmmm ZOmbie goodness countdown.....

[jlocopb]

Does anyone know if there was a limit on pistol mags in previous years?

[Sharpshot]

one in the gun, and one spare (two mags total). Will have to stock up on long M9 mags for this :D.
One other question: Would a P90 be allowed for a Police/SWAT Load-out for this game. It is pretty much in the same category as the other AEG's listed that they can use

[jlocopb]

That sucks, but I'll have to deal with it. I was going to go civie, but not anymore. 100 rounds top for civie or like 300 for military hmmm... Haha

[Paul@Apoc]

Why do people feel like they need to carry 3,000 rounds of ammo on them and just mow down zombies at will?? How is that even mildly fun? Why not carry a real world load out of realistic magazine size and play the game for what it is?

[jlocopb]

Why do people feel like they need to carry 3,000 rounds of ammo on them and just mow down zombies at will?? How is that even mildly fun? Why not carry a real world load out of realistic magazine size and play the game for what it is?

Don't get me wrong, I think that the military and police ammo count is fine, but I think limiting civilians to two pistol mags leaves them at a huge disadvantage. I'm not saying that I'd rock out a pistol with ten 50 round pistol mags, but four standard pistol mags isn't unrealistic in my opinion.

Sorry for the rant Paul, I just didn't want you to think I'm some trigger happy idiot. :D

[Hawkeye888]

I agree with Paul, it adds to the game knowing you might run out of ammo, I think that's fun personally.

[spsnipa]

if you have more than 2 mags civilians get ambitious and start to mobilize too much, the limited civilian ammo is probably put at to mags to restrict their affect (effect?) on military/police plus boffer weapons are way more fun

[jlocopb]

All valid points. I suppose that's why they have the different classes set up.

[seppuku]

I played a civilian last year, carrying a tri-shot shotgun with 2 shells of 10 3-BB shots each, one revolver with ~13 shots, and a 1911 with approximately 44 BBs.....oh, and an ax....and maybe another pistol? Regardless, I rarely felt threatened as a "survivor", which for me was the most thrilling aspect of this event. Now, the lack of suspense was mostly due to the film crew stealing away the undead for glamor shots, but to be honest I was disappointed by the large representation of police and military. An AEG with that many rounds can lay down a lot of zombies.

[Jun Wen]

Didn't civilians also have access o the melee equipment? There is some balance in that sense. I plan on attending with a few friends as civilians after repeated years of having other things to tend to.

[Kerrik13]

Hey everybody,

This year the pre-reg price and walk-on price will be the same... the main difference is that ONLY players who pre-reg for Police and Military be allowed to play them. All walk-on players must play civilians. This will allow me to balance out all the firepower for both phases (it was unbalanced previous years).

Police are limited to ONLY MP5 and M4 variant weapons with 2 standard non-winding mags and a max FPS of 350. They also get the riot shield which is a very powerful melee enhancement. But as a requirement, the Police faction MUST wear a guard/cop outfit or NAVY BLUE or BLACK BDUs. No more "just black" clothing for the police faction, there must be more effort.

Military may use any AEG of there choosing with 2 non-winding mags and a max FPS of 350. As a requirement, all military will be required to wear full ACU uniform and also a helmet... I am bringing the helmet requirement back this year.

A lot of people are upset that the requirements to be Police or Military are too restrictive and require special gear. Please let me say that this is done for a reason; people who go above and beyond for the role are rewarded with the additional firepower. You do not HAVE to have that gear to play in Plague, but you HAVE to have that gear in order to play as those 2 more powerful factions.

So if you want to mow down zombies with an AEG, then you must A) Pre-reg B) have the proper gear/weapons. The primary role in this game is just a normal civilian with some weapons against the zombie horde. The Police and Military are "above and beyond roles" for those who put in extra effort. If you don't like the requirements for Police and Military, then come as a civilian.

On the ammo/mag note, I know it is more REALISTIC that you can carry more ammo on the field than 2 mags... but it is more FUN when you have to watch your shots and potentially run out of ammo. You also won't find big ole ammo cans out in the woods that have infinite ammo in them to fill your mags... so if you want to start the game with only 4 pistol mags and then never reload or maybe reload once the entire day, that could be arranged... but I don't want that kind of game, I want people to run out, then have to reload, then run out again. It is a game mechanic, not a realism factor.

Pre-registration will probably open in the next week or two; my wedding is this weekend and I just cannot update the website right now. :) It will be done ASAP though, and the game is definitely a go, so plan ahead of time for the pre-reg and the role you want to play and it will be a fun day.

I also will be recruiting NPCs for dedicated zombies during the day; dedicated zombies will get in for free, play zombies all day, get a free lunch, get access to special prizes, and one random dedicated zombie will walk away with $100 in cash for participating... so if you are too poor to play in the game but want to be a part of it, consider the dedicated zombie role. :)

PS - Jun Wen, yes all classes have access to melee boffers... but only the civilians have access to the chainsaws.

PSS - Oh, and if you guys didn't feel threatened last year because of a lack of zombies or deadly encounters, then you may be in for a surprise this year... :-D

[Jun Wen]

I see... Well if that's the case, then I might finally have an excuse to wear my full black gear. I just need to replace a stolen tactical vest and I'll be set.

[Razor]

Congrats on the big day!!!!



Pre-registration will probably open in the next week or two; my wedding is this weekend and I just cannot update the website right now.

You mean she doesn't understand the demands of airsoft yet? I'll be there as a Zombie only looking for big juicy brainsssssssssssssssss

[Sharpshot]

I will likely be going as A SWAT Operator. I just have to wait to get my new black gear in. Hopefully, it will be here in time.

[Yourself]

I was going to be police or military this year but I had way too much fun as a civilian and this year I have a shotgun.

[RedQueen]

Count me in for zombie-ing it up for the entire day. I had more fun last year scaring the survivors than I did being one! I can't wait to eat me some tasty brains.... With brain sauce... And a side order of brains....mmmmmmmmmm........

[Jonesy]

How is that even mildly fun? Why not carry a real world load out of realistic magazine size and play the game for what it is?

Obviously you and I differ on our opinion of what a "real world load out" consists of, Paulie. ;-)

[Paul@Apoc]

Obviously you and I differ on our opinion of what a "real world load out" consists of, Paulie. ;-)

Was referring more to a 14 or so round magazine.

[jlocopb]

Too bad there's no VIP. It would be a blast to run around in a suit playing Secret Service. Haha

[Sollatido]

How can we sign up for dedicated zombie? I'm a poor bastard and that sounds like a good deal.

[DKruse]

Too bad there's no VIP. It would be a blast to run around in a suit playing Secret Service. Haha

Get a group of guys together and set it up. As long as you match the rules, you can really have a lot of freedom when it comes to civilian clothing. We had some guys who had worn suits before.

[jlocopb]

Get a group of guys together and set it up. As long as you match the rules, you can really have a lot of freedom when it comes to civilian clothing. We had some guys who had worn suits before.

Kruse, is that you volunteering to be the unarmed zombie bait?? Haha jk

[El_Phantasamo]

Get a group of guys together and set it up. As long as you match the rules, you can really have a lot of freedom when it comes to civilian clothing. We had some guys who had worn suits before.

I know a few guys in Michigan who have thrift store suits just for airsofting.

Even if you ruin it, you're out $6 or $12.

[Luke9180]

Hey, I wanted to know if wearing tactical black clothing including tactical pants, tactical fleece, tactical helmet, and tactical gloves would qualify as an ok police uniform? Also, I have a tan tactical vest, would I be able to wear that as a police officer? Also, I just bought a Magpul PTS Masada, would this qualify as a police weapon? Thanks for all the help!

[DGSephiro]

I know there is a MAG limit....but is there a weapon limit? Can I bring 4 pistols and a shotty to this game if I carry all of it on field?

[Sollatido]

Hey everybody,

This year the pre-reg price and walk-on price will be the same... the main difference is that ONLY players who pre-reg for Police and Military be allowed to play them. All walk-on players must play civilians. This will allow me to balance out all the firepower for both phases (it was unbalanced previous years).

Police are limited to ONLY MP5 and M4 variant weapons with 2 standard non-winding mags and a max FPS of 350. They also get the riot shield which is a very powerful melee enhancement. But as a requirement, the Police faction MUST wear a guard/cop outfit or NAVY BLUE or BLACK BDUs. No more "just black" clothing for the police faction, there must be more effort.

Military may use any AEG of there choosing with 2 non-winding mags and a max FPS of 350. As a requirement, all military will be required to wear full ACU uniform and also a helmet... I am bringing the helmet requirement back this year.

A lot of people are upset that the requirements to be Police or Military are too restrictive and require special gear. Please let me say that this is done for a reason; people who go above and beyond for the role are rewarded with the additional firepower. You do not HAVE to have that gear to play in Plague, but you HAVE to have that gear in order to play as those 2 more powerful factions.

So if you want to mow down zombies with an AEG, then you must A) Pre-reg B) have the proper gear/weapons. The primary role in this game is just a normal civilian with some weapons against the zombie horde. The Police and Military are "above and beyond roles" for those who put in extra effort. If you don't like the requirements for Police and Military, then come as a civilian.

On the ammo/mag note, I know it is more REALISTIC that you can carry more ammo on the field than 2 mags... but it is more FUN when you have to watch your shots and potentially run out of ammo. You also won't find big ole ammo cans out in the woods that have infinite ammo in them to fill your mags... so if you want to start the game with only 4 pistol mags and then never reload or maybe reload once the entire day, that could be arranged... but I don't want that kind of game, I want people to run out, then have to reload, then run out again. It is a game mechanic, not a realism factor.

Pre-registration will probably open in the next week or two; my wedding is this weekend and I just cannot update the website right now. :) It will be done ASAP though, and the game is definitely a go, so plan ahead of time for the pre-reg and the role you want to play and it will be a fun day.

I also will be recruiting NPCs for dedicated zombies during the day; dedicated zombies will get in for free, play zombies all day, get a free lunch, get access to special prizes, and one random dedicated zombie will walk away with $100 in cash for participating... so if you are too poor to play in the game but want to be a part of it, consider the dedicated zombie role. :)

PS - Jun Wen, yes all classes have access to melee boffers... but only the civilians have access to the chainsaws.

PSS - Oh, and if you guys didn't feel threatened last year because of a lack of zombies or deadly encounters, then you may be in for a surprise this year... :-D

I would like to talk about registering 6 guys including me for the dedicated zombie. How do we apply for this role?

[Arr0wana]

Does the 350 FPS limit apply to civilians too? I forgot what my new shotgun chronoed at. If that does apply, then I guess I should play it safe and plan on using some other springers. I just have to find the cheapest way to get more mags for them...

[Sharpshot]

Does the 350 FPS limit apply to civilians too? I forgot what my new shotgun chronoed at. If that does apply, then I guess I should play it safe and plan on using some other springers. I just have to find the cheapest way to get more mags for them...

The 350 Fps is universal for all classes. Its a safety concern


Hey, I wanted to know if wearing tactical black clothing including tactical pants, tactical fleece, tactical helmet, and tactical gloves would qualify as an ok police uniform? Also, I have a tan tactical vest, would I be able to wear that as a police officer? Also, I just bought a Magpul PTS Masada, would this qualify as a police weapon? Thanks for all the help!

Unless the rules change for this year, Yes to your first question, No to your second (has to be black tac gear), and No to your third question (asked the same thing about a P90)


I know there is a MAG limit....but is there a weapon limit? Can I bring 4 pistols and a shotty to this game if I carry all of it on field?

From last years rules, I believe the limit was two rifles/shotguns. I am not sure what the rule would be for pistols, but it may be the same, meaning two pistols.

But, who knows, they may let this fly
http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/4c114f8d_13ec_8cd3.jpg

[Arr0wana]

The 350 Fps is universal for all classes. Its a safety concern

Ok, looks like spring pistols for me.

[Luke9180]

Ok, would I be able to wear a tan vest with an ACU uniform, or does everything have to be ACU in order to be a soldier?

[Sharpshot]

Ok, would I be able to wear a tan vest with an ACU uniform, or does everything have to be ACU in order to be a soldier?

From last years rules, Gear color does not matter for Military.
PS. Here is the link to last years Rules: http://www.operationplague.com/event.html#uniforms_event

[Luke9180]

Awesome, I cant wait. Both to kill zombies and then be a zombie and kill people :) makes me smile. Any idea on when we can sign up for it?

[Sharpshot]

Awesome, I cant wait. Both to kill zombies and then be a zombie and kill people :) makes me smile. Any idea on when we can sign up for it?

Only Kerrick can say for sure for that

[seppuku]

Hey Kerrik....First, a belated congrats on the nuptials; hopefully the hitching went on without a hitch. Second, I was thinking of painting my paintball mask to be used as my zombie garb for that half of the day. Is that "legal", and do you have any guidelines/suggestions on how to do it (e.g. it needs to be white with red paint, or all red, or....).

Thanks!

[Kerrik13]

Hi everyone,

Sorry for the delay yet again, but I just got back from my wedding and honeymoon and Cancun, so I am trying to get back to life. :)

I tried to update the whole website with all the new and relevant info, but I couldn't quite finish it before I left for Mexico. I am, however, finishing it up and should have it all ready to go by the end of this weekend.

I appreciate everyone's eagerness for the game, but Plague is pretty straightforward and there aren't maps, complicated missions, or super detailed stuff going on... so everyone is well ahead of the game for the pre-reg and event.

To clarify a few things....

Dedicated zombies just need to email me at lupine_productions@yahoo.com with their full name so I can add you to the list. Then, just show up with a zombie outfit and enough padding (and water) to survive a day of playing a zombie and you are good to go. You'll register like everyone else but you'll get a special wristband showing you are an NPC zombie. You are free to make a costume (funny, serious, or gory... up to you) and additional face protection (like Seppuku's idea for a mask while playing a zombie... I recommend adding red/fake skin/whatever so it looks like more than just a mask)

All FPS ratings for the game are 350 FPS. Multi-shot shotguns are tested a little bit differently; if it is a standard pump action 3 shot or gas powered 5 shot it will be fine, but we still test them in case someone tweaked one.

Again, the Police and Military roles will require a pre-registration, proper equipment, and effort. They have access to higher power weapons. A full list of what will be required will be available soon.

Thanks!
Ryan

[Arr0wana]

Can you clarify how many pistols we are allowed to have? I see only 2 rifles/shotguns, and no rules on pistols. I want to use 3 or 4 pistols, and maybe my shotgun if it passes.

[Kerrik13]

No limit on pistols, but keep in mind... the more pistols, the more weight, the more jostling equipment... the easier you are to catch. :)

FULL EVENT RULES ARE LIVE! Forgive me if I made any typos, I will comb over it again just to make sure...

www.operationplague.com

[Jun Wen]

Registered and amped up to attend.

Are Century Actionflex (http://www.centurymartialarts.com/specials/Select_Actionflex_and_Wood_Weapons_On_Sale/ActionFlex_Sword.aspx) sparring swords/sticks acceptable melee weapons? The Edhellen (http://www.edhellen.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=EA&Category_Code=fullcontact) ones look nice, but they're not something I'd find another use for aside from this event. I've never torn one open before, but I used to spar at full speed with that stuff and brain my changed hasn't much at all.

Oh, and congratulations on your marriage and hopes for many blissful years together.

[Sharpshot]

Registered Police/SWAT :D

[El_Phantasamo]

Kerrik, there's some conflicting information between the event site and the forum.

Are gas pistols that can fire a 3 round burst allowed to be used in 3 round burst mode?
the event site says no, but you said yes on the forums.

[Kerrik13]

Sorry, not sure where I put it in the forums, but the website is correct... no full auto and no burst fire. Everything in the game is semi-auto only. The shotguns can fire multiple BBs in one shot, that is the only weapon capable of more than the 1 trigger pull = 1 BB firing.

The reason is because on burst fire, you can rattle off shots so fast it is like full auto... and it really isn't necessary in a game like this.

[Paul@Apoc]

Anyone who has Ryan's Number could you please have him call Dave or Me at the field concerning this game, ty.

[DKruse]

Anyone who has Ryan's Number could you please have him call Dave or Me at the field concerning this game, ty.

Game canceled. :P jklmoaroflkopter.

I sent him a text though.

[jlocopb]

Game canceled. :P jklmoaroflkopter.

I sent him a text though.


OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!!!! haha

[Kerrik13]

Haha absolutely not! The game is definitely NOT canceled. :)

I did, however, make a relatively large last minute change based on some discussions and feedback from previous players. Keep in mind that the following rule is not meant to mimic realism and I understand that some people will not like the ruling... but this is done in spirit of the game and the "oh crap!" moments of tension that are unique to a zombie game.

The new OFFICIAL Op Plague ruling for guns and ammo is the following....

All players are allowed to carry a MAXIMUM of TWO guns on them at any given time and only ONE of them may be an AEG (if the player is of a survivor class that can use them). This includes all survivor classes. Each gun may carry a maximum of TWO non-winding (no hi-caps!) magazines with them. Each tube of a gas shotgun counts as a magazine, and each shotgun shell counts as a magazine.

For example, a civilian survivor could rock out with the following combination of weapons...
- Shotgun + Shotgun
- Shotgun + Pistol
- Pistol + Pistol

Police and military could use the following combination of weapons...
- AEG + Shotgun
- AEG + Pistol
- Shotgun + Shotgun
- Shotgun + Pistol
- Pistol + Pistol

This does NOT affect melee weapons; you may still carry boffers, rubber knives, and chainsaws (if playing a civilian) with no penalty.

[seppuku]

Kudos for laying it down, Kerrik!

[Kerrik13]

Haha thanks, a lot of people are not happy with the strict police and military requirements and also with the limit of mags and guns... but both are done for the spirit of the game. Again this is a reminder that anyone wanting to play military or police needs to have the proper uniform and must pre-register.

The core of Op Plague is and will always be a group of standard civilians with some guns fighting off hordes of undead. The police and military are a chance to go above and beyond (NOT the norm) to get some extra firepower and fight zombies better. I tried allowing everyone to have AEGs in Op Plague 1 and it was so hard for the zombies to get close and kill anyone. The even further limitation on weapons to to force people to eventually run out of ammo and have some of the "OH SH*T" moments that make plague so great.

I've seen people show up with nothing but pistols and chainsaws and have a lot of fun... guns does not equal fun in Op Plague, but the experience and the immersion.

[Trinth]

Last year I ran around with a chainsaw *Only* and had a blast. I found the feeling of being outnumbered and having to run to be the most exciting thing of plague. The military caring 2 mid caps still hold like 300 rounds thats enough for 100 zombies Common.. quit complaining.

[drat77]

I have a friend that wants to play as a civilian, but doesn't have any guns. I own a Crossman AEG that has both the ability to fire using battery and using the kind of spring action where you have to pull a lever back for each shot. If I removed the battery from the gun and made it a single-shot spring would it be acceptable for civilian use?

[Kerrik13]

I'd prefer if people tried to keep the civilian guns to non-AEG variants, especially if they look like AEGs (or are one in a spring version...) One player has a spring M14 last year and I had numerous "complaints" about a civie with an AEG. Its all perception...

There will be some rentals available and a spring pistol is only like $20 at numerous local stores.

[Arr0wana]

Ok, I have a few more questions:

Any restrictions on what counts for the plastic chainsaw? Only one I saw at Party City today had a body that was only 1" wide, and if it didn't have the blade, you would never guess it was supposed to be a chainsaw.

What opportunities will we have to reload? I would guess we get to when we come back after being zombified, but when else will we be able to?

Will there be water on the field? I've never emptied my Camelbak in a game yet, but I could definitely see it happening here.

Will there be rental foam weapons?

The rules mention larger foam weapons can knock a zombie down. Does this mean red swords for Belegarth? Or would anything smaller work for that?

With the foam weapons, it's also 3 hits to take down a zombie, right? Does it change if you use a larger one that knocks them down?

What range are you usually shooting the zombies at? I want to know if I should bring two pistols with good range and accuracy, or switch one out for one with 2 mags and a higher ROF.

[Phoenix]

If your looking for a chainsaw you can go to any halloween store and pick up those chainsaw they work perfect because when you chainsaw a zombie the blade bends and there is a less of a risk of hurting people that would be your best bet thats were i got mine it hasn't let me down yet

[Kerrik13]

Any restrictions on what counts for the plastic chainsaw? Only one I saw at Party City today had a body that was only 1" wide, and if it didn't have the blade, you would never guess it was supposed to be a chainsaw.
- Yep, plastic halloween chainsaws work just fine.

What opportunities will we have to reload? I would guess we get to when we come back after being zombified, but when else will we be able to?
- There will be some ammo cans on the field; you can refill your mags at this location, but BBs and propellant will not be provided... you have to carry your ammo with you, but you cannot refill unless you are at those ammo cans.

Will there be water on the field? I've never emptied my Camelbak in a game yet, but I could definitely see it happening here.
- No, there will not be. Players are responsible for their own water, so either bring it or buy it from the Apocalypse shack.

Will there be rental foam weapons?
- No, no foam rentals are available at this time.

The rules mention larger foam weapons can knock a zombie down. Does this mean red swords for Belegarth? Or would anything smaller work for that?
- They must be a larger weapon (liked a Red Sword in belegarth) and I will tag it so you know you can use it this way.

With the foam weapons, it's also 3 hits to take down a zombie, right? Does it change if you use a larger one that knocks them down?
- Yep. The large weapons may knock a zombie down, but you still have to hack away at them to make them stop twitching.

What range are you usually shooting the zombies at? I want to know if I should bring two pistols with good range and accuracy, or switch one out for one with 2 mags and a higher ROF.
- Depends on the situation. If a slow zombie is shambling across a field at you, you may be able to line up a shot. If a horde of zombies are running through the brush after you, well then accuracy won't matter as much. :)

[kyledk]

i have played this game for two years(going onto my third this year) and i used a three-shot shotgun(one hit one kill) and i can attest that you will mostly only get to shoot at long range a few times before they are to close and you are either risking firing under 10 feet(you will not only die cuz you are not using melee and will get swarmed but your also hurting the player and making the game less enjoyable) or risking not pulling out your boffer in time to fend them off(restated from above).

unless your going for the badass look of duel pistols i would go with more ammo(ammunition conservation is very important) and higher ROF to kill them at range, besides the less wait you have the faster you can run away from us :].


also i HIGHLY suggest a melee weapon, as its just plane fun to charge into a horde whacking away screaming Leroy Jenkins!!!

[seth2s]

kyledk
unless your going for the badass look of duel pistols

If i recall correctly, you are not allowed to duel wield at APOC.

[Kerrik13]

Duel wielding pistols is fine. Some events/event coordinators don't allow it, but it is fine for Operation Plague.

[seth2s]

Kerrik13
Duel wielding pistols is fine. Some events/event coordinators don't allow it, but it is fine for Operation Plague.

Oh ok. My mistake.

[Sharpshot]

Duel wielding pistols is fine. Some events/event coordinators don't allow it, but it is fine for Operation Plague.

Well, I know what I am doing for the game :). KSC M93R II and a KWA M9 PTP. Only wish I still had an M4 lol.

[El_Phantasamo]

Well, I know what I am doing for the game :). KSC M93R II and a KWA M9 PTP. Only wish I still had an M4 lol.

I asked Ryan about my 93R's, and according to the rules, I could not use them in 3 round burst mode.

TO make matters worse, the shotgun I ordered is apparently A pre-order, and wont arrive until November or December.

[Paul@Apoc]

Since registration opens so early sunday, and because of the sheer number of people coming I have decided to allow camping saturday night for anyone willing to take a chance on the cold.

[Jonesy]

Since registration opens so early sunday, and because of the sheer number of people coming I have decided to allow camping saturday night for anyone willing to take a chance on the cold.

Excellent. Bring some extra pavers for me, yeah?

[Luke9180]

Just a quick question, My brother and I are registered for Operation Plague as Military. What are the chances we will play on the same team. Since its both our first real airsoft event, we kind of wanted to stick together in it as like a brother military survival team. I was just wondering if we have a good chance of being on the same team?

[Kerrik13]

Luke,
Please email me your full name and your brother's full name and I will put you in the same phase together.

UPDATE:
I had a typo on the website; pre-registration ends Wednesday, October 20th... I had the 19th. You have until TOMORROW NIGHT to pre-register and get the special price entry/DVD combo. Also, keep in mind that you MUST pre-register for military or police in order to play these factions... if you did not pre-register, you WILL be forced to play civilian!

Estimated attendance is looking to be easily 150+ for this weekend and we've had quite a few people offer their services as dedicated zombies, so it should be a very target rich environment this weekend. Extended forecast says it might rain a little on Sunday, so BE PREPARED!

I am looking forward to the 4th installment of Operation Plague this Sunday and I hope to see you there.

[BrockHaugh]

Ryan if i get done with drill early enough i will try to stop out, prolly wont play it will be late. I drill at camp douglas so its a maybe, im just trying not to miss any events before i leave in january.

[Spud]

3 days and counting..........I can't wait.
ill ring the dinner bell.....

[Luke9180]

Does anyone know where you can buy a barrel block before this? This is my first airsoft event and I read that we need them for this field. Where can I get one by Sunday? Also, my brother was looking for a pair of airsoft goggles as we are playing as military and he needs a pair to fit with his helmet. Any suggestions. I know this is last minute. I appreciate the help.

[jlocopb]

Does anyone know where you can buy a barrel block before this? This is my first airsoft event and I read that we need them for this field. Where can I get one by Sunday? Also, my brother was looking for a pair of airsoft goggles as we are playing as military and he needs a pair to fit with his helmet. Any suggestions. I know this is last minute. I appreciate the help.


You can go to fleet farm or dunhams for paintball barrel condoms. As for goggles at the 11th hour...don't know man. I'd lend you a pair if I had extra.

[Luke9180]

Thanks for the input. Yeah, I was trying to find a pair for my brother because i thought his paintball mask would fit with his helmet, but it was to no avail. I may try taking off all the plastic guards and just get the goggles out of it but idk? Thanks again for the help, im sure my brother and I can find somethin for him.

[drat77]

Like Luke I preregistered for military along with someone else that I'd like to be in the phase with. Kerrik, I can't find your email address anywhere and when I tried to PM you with the names it said your inbox was full.

[Jun Wen]

Hi Luke. Come look for me if you need some goggles to borrow. I'll have a couple options for your brother to try out. Just look for the Asian guy in police gear and too much other stuff.

[Kerrik13]

Sorry, my WAA account was full.

I sent an email to everyone who pre-registered. I was going to try some fancy balancing and email everyone what phase they will play in, but in order to keep it fluid I am just going to do it day of. If you have a friend you want to play with, just stand next to them when I call for people to stand next to people they want to play with.

Just keep in mind everyone that somebody has to play zombies during phase 1... every year people look crushed when I pick a half that has to switch over to zombie outfits and play zombies.

Don't forget that the AEC will be tomorrrow at 4pm at Apoc... please attend if you need it. I don't want to turn players away on Sunday, but you may not be able to play (or maybe I'll make you a dedicated zombie).

[jlocopb]

Kind of curious how many of you are planning on camping out? I know four of my buddies and myself will be.

[Luke9180]

Thanks Jun Wen, if we cant find anything today, we will try to find you. I really appreciate it. Hey Kerrik13, My brother and I would love to play as zombies first if you want to sign us up for phase 1 as zombies. We can tell you tmrw at the event too just to remind you. But we want to act like zombies!

[Irishman]

I believe APOC has some available for purchase.

[Kerrik13]

Hey everyone,

It is looking like we might get some cloud cover and maybe some rain... so dress accordingly. It will make for an even more scary, dreary, zombie-fied experience. :)

See you all tomorrow bright and early.

[kyledk]

YES, last time the zombies rosted ot dead, after all the have to keep moving all the time and have to run a lot more then survivors.
and this will let some of the other players pad up more....the "tank" zombie should injoy that, props to you man :]

[Kerrik13]

Hey guys,

It stormed last night but it is done with and it should hold off for the day, I think. Weather says possible rain later but that makes blasting zombies all the better.

See you at the field.