Are MARUZEN pistols any good?

[The_Jackal]

Im looking to by a new 1911. So far the best looking one Ive found is the MARUZEN COLT 1911 .45 Government model. So are MARUZEN pistols any good? Also what usually goes wrong first, can it use propane insted of green gas, ect. Please post ASAP! I need to know soon!! :)

[Timmay]

Maruzen P99's are nice. I cant speak for the 1911's. And Propane? seriously.....NO.
Dont use propane, Dont believe airsoft retreat, Dont believe the "lab reports" of a NON Clinical lab, and Dont believe Supergeek.
Its ALL a big pile of ess h eye tea. Theres gotta be reviews of that pistol somewhere.

[RTO]

From what I've seen, two ppl I know have used propane and it really inst what they say. Green gas w/o lubricant, its not that at all. Its got a lower power to it and yeah, its a cheaper alternative, but still, its not the best for your gun. I agree with timmay and there have been many conversations on this topic and lets try not to start another one.

[Nesbit]

If you guys start the propane debate in this thread it is getting locked.

[Guerilla Dan]

The boy aint right, Peggy!

[RTO]

Sorry

[Maple]

If you guys start the propane debate in this thread it is getting locked.

Hee-hee.

The only time propane should be discussed is face to face with Timmay. Just make sure to bring your 11oz. gloves and a mouth guard. :o

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Maruzen P99's are nice. I cant speak for the 1911's. And Propane? seriously.....NO.
Dont use propane, Dont believe airsoft retreat, Dont believe the "lab reports" of a NON Clinical lab, and Dont believe Supergeek.
Its ALL a big pile of ess h eye tea. Theres gotta be reviews of that pistol somewhere.


Haha, airsoft retreat, i forgot about that site.

edit: and in an attempt to make this post not completely useless, i give you this... http://www.airsoftcore.com/reviews-51.html

[Texx]

Let's just put it this way. No Maruzen gun was intended to use anything other than HFC 134a. THe Maruzen 1911, from what I understand, is an NBB. If you want a 1911 NBB that is up to using Propane or whatever, you might look into the HFC 1911. At $25-35 each, you get a disposable gun that works well.

Most of the current Maruzen Guns are designed to be more of a collector's piece than actual skirmish gun. The P99 is a prime example. The only reliable way that gun will cycle with anything higher than HFC134a is if you have it upgraded all to hell. The needed parts kit to upgrade it to that point is not only expensive, but is rare and difficult, if not impossible to find.

Even the Zeke metal slide, which is supposed to offer added durability is a wash. Without the proper upgrades, a higher pressure gas will shatter the slide. The other slides available for the Maruzen P99 have all been discontinued and fetch even higher prices.

I wouldn't say that Maruzen guns are bad. Some designs are targeted towards collectors while others are meant for skirmishing. If you want something that looks as good as a collectors piece and is reliable, you have to spend a big wad of cash.

Support for Maruzen guns stateside is almost nill. Many of the experienced airsmiths will stay clear of them due to difficulty finding parts. Others will simply reccommend you buy another one or a parts gun.

Honestly, if you want a decent 1911 GBB, you should look at Western Arms as thats 98% of all they make. The chances of you finding what you are looking for with a Western Arms 1911 is far more likely. Otherwise, TM, KSC, and KJW would likely be your best option. IMHO, Maruzen GBBs really shouldn't be considered in this group.

It's your money and your decision.

BTW, you linked to a Marushin 1911 and not Maruzen. Two different animals.

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

BTW, you linked to a Marushin 1911 and not Maruzen. Two different animals.



lol oops, it won't let me edit my post now, so i'll just have to leave it.

[SHOGUN]

I've said it before, if you want a .45 of any flavor, and you can afford it, it's Western Arms all the way. I've got their Wilson Service Grade CQB and it's unbelievable. Almost 3 years without a malfunction using green gas and .25's. I clean and lubricate it occasionally, and it just keeps going.

The Marui High-Cappa is nice too, and quite a bit cheaper if you can't afford a WA. Tank had one and it was really nice. Seemed like a good deal, but I don't own one and can't speak to the durability.

[seppuku]

i have a Tokyo Marui Hi-Capa and it is really nice. it shoots great, and if you replace one of the o-rings it can reliably shoot green gas. (i actually have the o-ring but haven't got around to making the swap.) but even with HFC134 the gun is very accurate due to an excellent hop-up. with 30 round mags you'll have an almost endless supply of BBs too (for a pistol at least). i'm actually going to be posting it for sale this week though, as i've found i'm more partial to the feel of single-stack 1911s and the Sig P226. i'll probably pick up the Marui Sig, just because i've been so impressed with the design of their Hi-Capa. anyway, feel free to PM me if you're intrested. i have three mags total and the gun is in excellent shape.

SHOGUN,
did you have to replace any parts on your WA before you could use green gas? are some WA models more prone to breakage than others when using the higher power gas?

[Timmay]

some of the high end models use a metal/polymer slide. My old prokiller did, took green gas fine, and was loud and powerful as.....staypuft. i dunno, it just popped in there.

[SHOGUN]

SHOGUN,
did you have to replace any parts on your WA before you could use green gas? are some WA models more prone to breakage than others when using the higher power gas?

The research I did said that the WA Beretta 92 series were designed for HFC-134a only. I read reports saying HFC-22 (green gas) blew them right apart.

I believe I read that the others are designed to handle green gas. I've used green gas exclusively through my WA, as well as my wife's KSC Glock 17 and never had any kind of problem. Both guns are stock without upgraded valves orings or anything else (no metal slides or anything either).

My experience is not a guarantee that you can use green gas in your guns without problem, it's just my experience.

[Timmay]

Also, i didnt KNOW my WA had a metal polymer slide, until beest pointed out his blew apart. he said mine felt stronger, so i scratched it a bit, and viola! a silver metal appeared. Must be the same process KSC uses for thier MK23 heavyweights, because those are just as nice.

[Tank]

The TM Hi-CAPA is an awesome gun.
But if you don't like the double stack frame, then it's not for you.
The TM Sig P226 is also a great gun.

If you're patient, Marui is putting out a regular 1911 soon. (No word on official release though.)

[SigPro552]

I thought this thread was on Maruzen pistols?

[The_Jackal]

Well since I posted this, I have done some more research. I have come to the decesion that i will be getting a Western Arms pistol. Well, Im really getting 2, but thats besides the point. WA just came out with a new pistol(http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Category?menu1=2)
Its a Kimber 45 Auto, it looks cool and its basically the gun I wanted.