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MeatShield
21 Sep 05, 02:25 PM
Is it worth it? I have an AUG and love it and all, but I want another one. I just kinda like the look of the sg1 and it looks like a good support/sniper weapon. Do any of you have good experience with it, or bad? Pro's cons about it?

Just wanted to know people's experience before I stick some money into it. It would either buy this, or a S&M with 14 inch barrel for deer hunting. Nitro rounds and all..

Mr. Freeze
21 Sep 05, 02:50 PM
I'm surprised Kennedy hasn't posted to this, he calls his the Auto Cannon, which he uses it just as such, from what I've seen he loves the gun

Vigilante
21 Sep 05, 03:05 PM
does it have a good rate of fire and accuracy?

Timmay
21 Sep 05, 03:47 PM
Its a good gun in general. BUT.....
the 700 motor doesnt "rip" so if anything you should develop fire control anyways.
The long plastic front can be creaky, but its solid for the most part.
Its BIG. i mean LONG man. horrid for CQB, even tight woods. But awesome anywhere medium to long distances.
Can be considered heavy

Its accurate as hell, even with a stock SG1 barrel.
500rnd high caps
Very upgradeable.
Great assault/support weapon platform. Sniper-dont bother.
The bipod is nice.
The sights are better than an M16 any day, not that i care.
Houses a big battery.
Very cool hopup adjustment.

Vigilante
21 Sep 05, 03:54 PM
Alright sweet, I just might get it. Some ppl told me to get a scope and everything. But jeez, I can hit a deer from 350 yards away, in a tree swinging back and forth with the wind blowing and knock the gal right back behind her left front leg and drop her where she stands. I love the peep sights. I think I will get it now. Wohoo thxn all for the help!.

nemesis
21 Sep 05, 06:51 PM
i got to mess around with a couple of them and they seem to be very solid guns overall... i have been shot at by one (kennedy) and hi smacked the area around me pretty hard.

i dont know about how long it lasts over all stock but it seems like a nice gun and if i would not have bought the m16 that was the gun i was going to be gun because timmay gave me the idea HAHA TIMMAY I SAID YOU DID IT

seppuku
21 Sep 05, 09:29 PM
i think Timmay summed it up real well, but i'd like to reiterate the fact that the SG1 is a BIG gun, and it feels big. IMHO, compared to the M16A2 and M14, both guns being about the same overall length as the SG1 (the M16 is about 10cm shorter than the other two), the SG1 still feels significantly bulkier (as a reference, i'm 5'11"). if you haven't already, i'd recommend handling the gun to see if it "fits" you first.

i personally found the "front-end creak" annoying, but the external build quality on the M16 didn't really impress me much other. i've heard a metal body for the SG1 really tightens it up though.

those two "negatives" aside (which are really personal preferences more than anything), the only other drawback, again depending on your tastes, is that there aren't any midcaps available. the Marui standard mags do hold 70 rounds though.

all said and done though, the power and accuracy of an upgraded SG1 is quite formidable. and with all the other bonuses that were mentioned above, it can be a really great weapon. i've never actually skirmished with a SG1 (handled, shot, and caressed only), but i know someone who has one and he really likes it.

Maple
21 Sep 05, 09:38 PM
If I can wield a M14 (I'm 5'7") than most anybody can carry a SG1.... well maybe not KA-JJ, but he doesn't have a spleen. :D

nemesis
21 Sep 05, 09:45 PM
harsh maple but true you are a little guy and that is a big gun... i guess you just dont follow standard now do you?

Maple
21 Sep 05, 10:12 PM
It makes up for the short comings in my pants. :cry:

Razor
21 Sep 05, 10:20 PM
Its BIG. i mean LONG man. horrid for CQB, even tight woods. But awesome anywhere medium to long distances.
Can be considered heavy


As stated, it's big. I don't use mine when foliage starts growing in as it tends to snag a lot and through tight woods you'll end up carrying it very vertically, which will cut down on your engagement time. In clear areas though it's a nice gun. The 500 rnd high caps are nice too. Just for laughs I put my 203 on it and that became a major beast to lug around. If possible see if you can use one a bit at a game from a friend. While it may be fun at first, after running around the field and experiencing some of the conditions you may be rethinking it. If you put a RIS or the G3A3 front end on it you can slim it down a bit in the front.

Mr. Freeze
22 Sep 05, 03:38 AM
must make this point though as well, you should invest in a sling, cause after awhile she tends to wear out your arms.

perculator
22 Sep 05, 06:10 AM
I love mine, the creaking I just stuck tape and filler to insolate the noise, and to stablize it, the bursts are accurate and it is a scary when you see that thing aiming down on you

Vigilante
22 Sep 05, 09:54 AM
Is it as accurate as my AUG, or more accurate?

Either way, I still think I might get one. Should I leave the bipod on then, or just take it off? I was thinking of adding stuff to it but dunno if i can with the bipod off or not.

Vanac
22 Sep 05, 10:17 AM
its more accurate than an aug.

Kennedy
22 Sep 05, 10:59 AM
ok, i'm back and refreshed after my dental surgury.

The SG-1 is a fantatic weapons exactly like what everyone else has already said. as timmay said eailier the 700 motor doesn't "rip" out rounds like many like, but to me I feel that the less powerful motor helps increase longevity when put up to the abuse someone like me puts it too.

Ben
22 Sep 05, 11:24 AM
its more accurate than an aug.


What makes it more accurate? They have the same barrel.

Bucket
22 Sep 05, 11:30 AM
i was under the impression that a G3 SG1 barrel is longer then a AUG, but than again i could be wrong

Timmay
22 Sep 05, 11:42 AM
469 mm Inner Barrel G3A3/A4/SG1
509 mm Inner Barrel M16A1/A2/VN, AUG

Bucket
22 Sep 05, 11:55 AM
i stand corrected

Razor
22 Sep 05, 03:42 PM
must make this point though as well, you should invest in a sling, cause after awhile she tends to wear out your arms.

With slings watch for generic "H&K g3/mp5 3pt" slings if you go that route. I had one and it fit the mp5 fine but wasn't long enough for the G3 to be of any value other than a 2pt and I ended up carrying it most of the time without the sling. Eventually I got a spectergear slings and it works fine.

Vigilante
14 Dec 05, 02:06 PM
Hmm, think its time for me to pick one up soon.

Maus
15 Dec 05, 12:50 PM
469 mm Inner Barrel G3A3/A4/SG1
509 mm Inner Barrel M16A1/A2/VN, AUG

469mm = 18.46"
509mm = 20.03"

When it comes to airsoft guns (or even real steel), does 1.5" difference really matter?

Case in point; Im trying to decide between a G36 standard 20" barrel or a G36K 15" barrel. To me (my opinion) it doesnt seem like it would realy make that much of a difference, since typical engagement ranges are 150 feet or so, and you are hoping that one bb out of the 3 five round bursts you just sent down range hits a mobile target shooting back at you. Just curious what the schools of thought are.

Everyone has mentioned it is a large rifle. Has anyone tried to put a MC51 retractable stock on their G3 SG1? MP5 retractable stock wont work because of the single pin retention. (at least that how it is with my real steel experience)

perculator
15 Dec 05, 01:20 PM
if your going to go to the game this sunday, I could let you run around with it.

Maple
15 Dec 05, 05:13 PM
469mm = 18.46"
509mm = 20.03"

When it comes to airsoft guns (or even real steel), does 1.5" difference really matter?


Yes, in fact it does. Comparing aeg's to real steel is not a good comparison at all. They make look the same, but that is pretty much where the similarities end.
With an aeg, 1.5" of barrel can make a big difference with accuracy.

Maus
15 Dec 05, 05:25 PM
Yes, in fact it does. Comparing aeg's to real steel is not a good comparison at all. They make look the same, but that is pretty much where the similarities end.
With an aeg, 1.5" of barrel can make a big difference with accuracy.

How so? The barrels arent rifled. I realize the hop up is acting as rifling, but I guess I am not sure how an extra 1.5" is going to make a difference to a 6mm (0.23") plastic projectile. I could see there being a difference if you are comparing a G3 SG1 to a MP5 (a difference of 10 inches or so between the 2 barrels).

Maple
15 Dec 05, 05:30 PM
As I am not an airsmith (or some guy who is going to make up cool "facts") I can only go upon my experience from the past few years. I have owned a lot of guns, or various barrel length, and have found that barrel length does indeed make a difference to accuracy.
I guess I'll keep quiet and let Timmay/ Tex/ Tank/ Nightstalker/ GB answer this one, as they all have much better working knowledge of aeg's than the majority of us.

Doc
15 Dec 05, 05:39 PM
I looked at buying an sg1 or an aug right after I started playing airsoft.
I went with the aug for many reasons.

Built in fire seletor switch with the trigger helps alot.
509mm inner barrel in a bulpulp body.
It is very easy to use for me.
A smaller gun that does the same thing the sg1 does.
And a nice top rail.

Sure it does take a small battery, but changing the battery only takes 40 seconds. And I have never had a battry on me die during a game. And I do lay on the trigger.

sloppy joe
15 Dec 05, 05:44 PM
i just bought a g3 sg1 2 days ago and have only used it in one skirm but despite the size i like it alot. although i do have some questions for experienced g3 handlers. i was out sightingi it in with a 3-9 scope and it was hitting about a 2-2.5ft group at about a 100 ft and i was wondering if that was normal cause my m4 does about the same. also i have a 130% spring in it and only have fired about 1000 rounds through it so i was wondering if you have to break it in or what not. any info on what upgrades to get would be nice.

Ben
16 Dec 05, 03:22 AM
you know this thread died like three months ago... :cry: