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Sgt.Petro
20 Aug 05, 11:12 AM
I've heard of this before but never bothered to ask the cure. MP5 doesn't really have a "semi" select anymore. The selector goes right to full-auto. If you mess with it you can find where semi is supposed to be and it occasionally only fires semi. Question is... Is it a gearbox problem? a selector problem? or something else?
The gearbox is not directly affected by the selecer plate. The selector plate simply completes the circuit which powers the motor. The motor runs the gear box.
Sounds like you may have a worn out selector plate. The seleter plate "locks" into each firing position. Sometimes the contacts just wear out or sometimes the little nub that the selector switch pushes on the plate can wear or become damaged.
The replacement part runs around $8-$20 depending on which brand you use. (Provided we're talking about the MP5A or SD as the MP5K uses a plate specific to the Version III mechbox.) Systema, Guarder, Classic Army, ICS/AE, (the Systema parts are an excellent replacement as the contacts are nickel-plated) and several other manufacturers make a compatible part. Or you could simply order a replacement TM part (if it is a TM gun).
You might also have a worn contact brush on the switch ($20 - $40 part). Sometimes the contacts brush (the metal contact which touches the selector plate to complete the circuit which runs the motor) are worn on the switch as well.
Either way, the replacement parts alone may cost you $10 - $50, depending on the parts you use to replace it and depending on which part is actually worn out. Installation will depend on who you ask to do the work.
Sgt.Petro
20 Aug 05, 01:13 PM
Yeah it's an MP5-SD5. I'll break her down and take a look. Appreciate the help.
Night Stalker
20 Aug 05, 05:38 PM
Actually on the MP5, the selector plate doesn't lock the position. The selector switch does the locking. On your lower reciever, under the selector switch, there is 3 dimples for position. On the inside of your switch, there is a spring loaded "point" that hits the dimples and locks it in. In most cases, these have worn out. How old is your MP5?
Sgt.Petro
21 Aug 05, 03:49 AM
Not sure but gonna guess it's pretty used and abused. I got it through a trade with a guy I skirmished with down south. It used to be his main gun.
Night Stalker
21 Aug 05, 06:26 AM
Ok, see a lot of times when this happens it is on an older gun and the lower reciever has worn away in this area. The fix to it is to get another lower reciever. If you pull the selector off, you will see a groove worn away between these holes or indentions at the 3 locating points between safe/semi/full auto. You will need to get a new lower reciever. I know it sounds extreme, but that is what is needed to fix it. It is hard to tell without the gun in hand though.
To be 100%, you can check it out for yourself. If you don't know how, get a very small phillips screwdriver and on the underside of your left hand side of your selector switch, remove that. Pull off your selector switch and slide the other one out the other side. Now you can see underneath the swtch and see the holes. After you do that, post and let me know if it is grooved out or not. If it is not, you may have the notch in the selector switch wore out, lost the spring/clogged with dirt, you never know. Remove it first to see what is goin on.
Actually on the MP5, the selector plate doesn't lock the position. The selector switch does the locking. On your lower reciever, under the selector switch, there is 3 dimples for position.
That is only on the "SEF" - style lower recievers, though. On the "Navy" reciever, the only thing on the reciever is a little guide for the selector lever. This is precisely why the selector plater wears out so quickly. If the Navy reciever had that feature, there would be an additional place to "lock" the control position into the individual fire control settings.
The "SEF" - style lower recievers are found on the MP5 A2 - 3 and SD2 - 3. The A4 - 5 and SD4 - 6 (including the RAS) have a "Navy" style lower reciever. The K and PDW have a Navy Lower reciever, but are also Version 3 Mechbox guns. The G36C utilizes a selector switch similar to that found on the K/PDW and also sufferes from the same wear issues as the MP5A4-5/SD4-6 and K/PDW Series.
The MP5J has the same setup as the Navy, but the markings for the 3-rd Burst Group of:
<=|<=|<=|<=|<=| - Full auto
<=|<=|<=| - Burst (non-functional on the "J")
<=| - Semi
</| - Safe
Night Stalker
21 Aug 05, 12:48 PM
"That is only on the "SEF" - style lower recievers, though. On the "Navy" reciever, the only thing on the reciever is a little guide for the selector lever. This is precisely why the selector plater wears out so quickly. If the Navy reciever had that feature, there would be an additional place to "lock" the control position into the individual fire control settings.
The "SEF" - style lower recievers are found on the MP5 A2 - 3 and SD2 - 3. The A4 - 5 and SD4 - 6 (including the RAS) have a "Navy" style lower reciever. The K and PDW have a Navy Lower reciever, but are also Version 3 Mechbox guns. The G36C utilizes a selector switch similar to that found on the K/PDW and also sufferes from the same wear issues as the MP5A4-5/SD4-6 and K/PDW Series.
The MP5J has the same setup as the Navy, but the markings for the 3-rd Burst Group of:
<=|<=|<=|<=|<=| - Full auto
<=|<=|<=| - Burst (non-functional on the "J")
<=| - Semi
</| - Safe"
Are you on drugs?
Everything you said is wrong, this is on the standard Marui recivers. It has nothing to do with any NAVY recievers. The SEF has it but it is more pronounce3d. It is also on the Marui. If you don't believe me take one apart.. if you have one and post a pic and show me. Until then quick talking out of your ass and giving bad advice.
We aren't talking about how the trigger group is on any real steel gun here. And none of the info you provided about it applies to airsoft guns. You only have 2 variations. The ICS/AE style SEF and the Marui standard lower reciever. Why even bring up variants of the MP5s that aren't made for airsoft. You make no sense and are trying to do as you normally do and confuse people with a bunch of technical bull____ and jargon.
Until then quick talking out of your ass and giving bad advice.
We aren't talking about how the trigger group is on any real steel gun here. And none of the info you provided about it applies to airsoft guns. You only have 2 variations. The ICS/AE style SEF and the Marui standard lower reciever. Why even bring up variants of the MP5s that aren't made for airsoft. You make no sense and are trying to do as you normally do and confuse people with a bunch of technical bull____ and jargon.
Why don't you just shut your suck hole?
I don't know why I even bother with any of this crap. It's obvious that none of you supposed "experts" will ever take anything I say seriously, simply because I have only attended one game.
I'm tired of having to defend myself from people who were too chicken____ to come up to me at the one event I attended and try to tell me to my face that I'm full of ____. Instead, you hide behind the forums.
I know what you want, you want to run me off because I offer advice or information that I shouldn't possibly know, sinvce I haven't been at any event or haven't shown you that I know what I'm talking about. You get tired of me answering questions that none of you have any inkling to answer other than to try to argue with me.
Is that really what this community wants? Do you want me to hang up my hat, sell off my gear and guns, and stop posting on your beloved forums? To telly ou the truth, Night Stalker, alot of you people are just too stupid for me to want to associate with. You get mad because something I say might be contrary to the "way you've always thought." Or when I question why you think that way, you become angered that I don't share that same narrow-minded outdated mentality.
I supposeyou and your cronies will continue to say that I have not personally owned more AEGs in two years than the majority of people posting here. After all, I have only my word to base that on.
I don't need any of this crap from you guys. I have a built reputation in several other airsoft communities that was built on my work in airsoft. I have reputation as an airsoft businessman based on almost 100 individual transactions with people from all over the United States.
I thought brining my experience and contributions to this community might help protray airsoft in Wisconsin in a far better light. But I guess I was mistaken. I don't need this garbage from you Night Stalker or Erik Ness, or whoever the hell else keeps bringing this crap up.
Fine. I will shut up. You can forward Admin and tell him to remove my account as well. Ban my IP range. If you want to run off someone willing to help by answering questions. Fine with me.
But as far as giving bad advice. I suppose the worst I have given in the last few months was recommending local hobbyists join this community.
Night Stalker
21 Aug 05, 05:12 PM
LMAO Someone needs their meds...
Why don't you just shut your suck hole? Why don't you show up at Rubber Ducky and tell me that?
I don't know why I even bother with any of this crap. It's obvious that none of you supposed "experts" will ever take anything I say seriously, simply because I have only attended one game.
One game has nothing to do with it and I have no idea what you mean by that.
I'm tired of having to defend myself from people who were too chicken____ to come up to me at the one event I attended and try to tell me to my face that I'm full of ____. Instead, you hide behind the forums.
You think so? I hide behind forums? Come to Rubber Ducky then and I will tell you anything you want.
I know what you want, you want to run me off because I offer advice or information that I shouldn't possibly know, sinvce I haven't been at any event or haven't shown you that I know what I'm talking about. You get tired of me answering questions that none of you have any inkling to answer other than to try to argue with me.
Like I said, if you think you know, show a pic to prove your theory. Your advice was wrong Plain and simple. No offense but you need to take a chill pill and relax bud. And run you off the forums? Not a chnace, Icould care less. Besides, you ran yourself off the WAP forums by posting constant political crap under a fake name and then getting mad when people didn't agree with you. You threw a hissing fit. But I let it go and didn't say anything to you. Now you are going to whine here about god knows what your problem is.
Is that really what this community wants? Do you want me to hang up my hat, sell off my gear and guns, and stop posting on your beloved forums? To telly ou the truth, Night Stalker, alot of you people are just too stupid for me to want to associate with. You get mad because something I say might be contrary to the "way you've always thought." Or when I question why you think that way, you become angered that I don't share that same narrow-minded outdated mentality.
We are stupid to have you want to associate with us? Man that is so 5th grade. dude. I have no idea what you are talking about. If you are looking for pity, I have none for you. Or are you still mad because I jumped in on the CA Sucks forum when you bad mouthed how bad Marui was and how cool CA is. If you have been airsofting for longer than 3 yrs, you might know that. Sorry. lol
I supposeyou and your cronies will continue to say that I have not personally owned more AEGs in two years than the majority of people posting here. After all, I have only my word to base that on.
No one that I hang with ever said that. So how can we continually say that? but I did read you post that once. Is that what you mean? I could care less how many games or guns you own. Makes no mind to me. Just offer real advice.
I don't need any of this crap from you guys. I have a built reputation in several other airsoft communities that was built on my work in airsoft. I have reputation as an airsoft businessman based on almost 100 individual transactions with people from all over the United States.
That is nice. You want a cookie? It has no bearing in here and I nor anyone else should really care. Hopefully your rep wasn't built on repairs since the advice you gave above was a little less than accurate.
I thought brining my experience and contributions to this community might help protray airsoft in Wisconsin in a far better light. But I guess I was mistaken. I don't need this garbage from you Night Stalker or Erik Ness, or whoever the hell else keeps bringing this crap up.
Since when do I keep bringing this crap up? Show me and quote me. I haven't a CLUE what the hell you are talking about. You are clearly mistaking me for someone else. And what crap? As far as Erik Ness, I have never met him. I answered the thread for help here, nothing more. And you continued to provide bad advice.
Fine. I will shut up. You can forward Admin and tell him to remove my account as well. Ban my IP range. If you want to run off someone willing to help by answering questions. Fine with me
Whatever floats your boat. I have never met you and could care less what you do. lol.
But as far as giving bad advice. I suppose the worst I have given in the last few months was recommending local hobbyists join this community.
No, I am not sure the worst you have ever done was. Some advice was good. What problem you have with me.. I don't know. If you are looking for a fight, I will be at BHD and Rubber Ducky. Show up and start one. if you are just pissed because of some angst you think you are feeling, well I cannot help you. You seem to think the whole WAA is againts you or somehitng. I haven't posted much here so what beef you have.. I don;t know. But I would suggest meds? I don't know.
I need to take my meds? You need to take your head out of your ass.
Fine. I gave out bad advice.
Marui made the MP5 SD4 as a limited edition AEG.
CA has made the MP5 A2 and A3 as well as the SD2 and SD3 for several years. But I guess, fitting the typical and outdated "ALL CA SUCKS" mentality you guys perpetuate here completely blots out the fact that a Custom TM MP5A2, A3, SD2, and SD3 was offered by DenTrinity, WGC, and several other Hk retailers for several years, enough so that it became an accepted common-place variant.
ICS/AE currently makes MP5 A2-5 and SD2-6 in addtion to several other variants.
The Marui MP5J does have Three-round burst trigger group markings, but utilizes the same fire control system and mechbox as previous Marui A models.
All of this was completely wrong and I apologize for offering it as advice.
The Marui MP5A4 has a Navy-style Lower Reciever.
The Marui MP5A5 has a Navy-style Lower Reciever.
The Marui MP5 RAS has a Navy-style Lower Reciever.
The Marui MP5K has a Navy-style Lower Reciever.
The Marui MP5K/PDW has a Navy-style Lower Reciever.
An MP5N (Navy) - Hk's Designation for the MP5 designed for Maritime Operations, specifically for the US Navy having the following fire control settings:
<=|<=|<=|<=|<=| - Full auto
<=| - Semi
</| - Safe"
The very fire control settings present on the Marui MP5A4, A5, K, PDW, SD4, SD5, SD6s, and often referred to as "Navy-stye."
All of this information was also completely wrong and I, again, apologize for offering it as advice.
Fine Night Spackler. I gave bad advice. I apologize that my advice is so laden with inaccuracies, untruths and plain and simple BS. I will not offer it to anyone else. And at the same time, I want the information I posted about GBBs, which was done by researching and asking owners and sellers specific questions, pulled off the forums as well. Since everything and anything I have ever said is completely wrong, I wouldn't want anyone else mislead.
Guerilla Dan
21 Aug 05, 06:53 PM
Well at least you're apologizing for being a ____...I guess...
Wait...nevermind. No, you're still a ____ass.
Here you are, Tex. It can be your new signature. Just remember to shrink it down a bit.
Davidson
21 Aug 05, 07:03 PM
Just pistol duel and get it overwith.
Night Stalker
21 Aug 05, 07:37 PM
Dude, what exactly is your problem?
"Fine Night Spackler. I gave bad advice. I apologize that my advice is so laden with inaccuracies, untruths and plain and simple BS. I will not offer it to anyone else. And at the same time, I want the information I posted about GBBs, which was done by researching and asking owners and sellers specific questions, pulled off the forums as well. Since everything and anything I have ever said is completely wrong, I wouldn't want anyone else mislead.
Apology? WOW, I never saw one of those on this board before. But now you want to insult my name too? I have no control over what stays on this board and what goes. But you keep calling me out and throwing insults directly towards me and about my name and you I would say you can deal with me directly at a game... but hey, you never seem to go. So go whine to someone else. Nobody here cares. And all of that advice went to prove nothing more than you are a statistition. None of this does anything to help his problem. And as long as you brought it up... And the whole arguement that CA sucks with the M249 SAW, was never directed at you by Erik Ness. So why did you jump on him for offering his opinion on this gun? Nobody asked you. But you certainly didn't mind jumping his ass when he posted and did everything you could to put him and others with his view down. And now you don't like when someone comes back at you do you? Crybaby! Lesson here, if you are man enough to dish it out to people, be more of a man and take it, or else SHUT THE "F" UP!
And if you have done over 100 transactions, you would know CAs reputation, that is why they suck. So yeah Deal with it.
Here you are, Tex. It can be your new signature. Just remember to shrink it down a bit.
You're right, I do need a new signature.
I don't know, I was thinking of resizing it just a bit smaller. I'll give ya a heads up when I'm done though.
Ya know, Night Stalker, I've grown tired of this. SO I'm just gonna go. Thank ya for the kinds words and all. I appreciate them.
Night Stalker
21 Aug 05, 08:41 PM
Kind words? I have none for someone with as much angst as you. And now you insult my team too? Seek help man! Get some meds man.
Night Stalker
21 Aug 05, 08:47 PM
Hey, I forgot to ask before you go.... do you or anyone here have a pic of you. Since nobody here has ever seen you, we at least woudl like to know what you looked like. We want to remember you as the guy who just flipped out.
Guerilla Dan
21 Aug 05, 09:08 PM
http://texx.ytmnd.com/
We wont hear much more from him. Probably went into his room and turned on some Linkin Park or something..started to cut his wrists....
CRAAAAWWWWLING IIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIN
:cry: :cry: :cry:
TEXX, what is your major malfunction NUMBNUTS!!!!!!!!! I chose to stay out of this one, but when you posted the stupid ass TFD banner, you insulted the whole team, and that pisses me off to no end. >:(
Where do you get your information? You are completely off base on the whole MP5 thing seeing that i own 5 of them, I think I know what the ____ I'm talking about. Another thing, 100 plus airsoft transactions, where, what is the name of you store? Smart money says you don't have one.
I have been reading through you past posts, and you seem like a total wack-job to me. You can make all these posts ripping NS for correcting your WRONG ADIVCE, then insult the whole god damn team in the process. What a retard!
Oh, yeah, by the way, FRUITCAKE, what the ____ is this about:
Believe me, I begin every day telling myself, "I will not be evil and will be good." But its very difficult. Stealing candy from kids, forcing old ladies out in front of moving buses, blowing a whistle in the ears of telemarketers, and calling information for numbers I could easily look up myself... Its just too damned tempting.
The important thing is that I have admitted I have a problem. The rest will work itself out in time.
Sounds like a crock of ____ to me!
Eric_Ness
22 Aug 05, 02:24 AM
I don't know why I even bother with any of this crap. It's obvious that none of you supposed "experts" will ever take anything I say seriously, simply because I have only attended one game.
I don't know why you bother either. Perhaps you enjoy posting rude responses to everyone who disagrees with you?
I'm tired of having to defend myself from people who were too chicken____ to come up to me at the one event I attended and try to tell me to my face that I'm full of ____. Instead, you hide behind the forums.
I think we are all tired of trying to post something "Texx correct" so we don't have mile long posts telling us how dumb we are. Come to some games, I'll tell you what a dumbass I think you are to your face, insulting people really doesn't bother me like it used to.
I know what you want, you want to run me off because I offer advice or information that I shouldn't possibly know, sinvce I haven't been at any event or haven't shown you that I know what I'm talking about. You get tired of me answering questions that none of you have any inkling to answer other than to try to argue with me.
Blah blah blah noone gives a ____.
Is that really what this community wants? Do you want me to hang up my hat, sell off my gear and guns, and stop posting on your beloved forums? To telly ou the truth, Night Stalker, alot of you people are just too stupid for me to want to associate with. You get mad because something I say might be contrary to the "way you've always thought." Or when I question why you think that way, you become angered that I don't share that same narrow-minded outdated mentality. Allways the mark of an inteligent person, alot of you people are just too stupid for me. Classic, simply stunning logic there. Unfortunately not all of us are as stupid as you convince yourself we are. Personaly I'm too damn smart for my own good. And While I cannot give you my various IQ scores when I took the test (cut me some slack it was right before I skipped the 4th grade) I do know that at the least I placed in the top 2% or Mensa wouldn't have taken me. And while all of that was quite some time ago, I haven't lost much of my ability, as the Airforce has now given me my prefered job of Cryptologic Linquist. Yup they allow real dumbasses to place in that field.
I supposeyou and your cronies will continue to say that I have not personally owned more AEGs in two years than the majority of people posting here. After all, I have only my word to base that on.
Hint...Noone gives two shakes of a ____ stick how many AEG's you've owned, because no matter your age or monetary status you obviously haven't matured enough to write on forums without pissing everyone off.
I don't need any of this crap from you guys. I have a built reputation in several other airsoft communities that was built on my work in airsoft. I have reputation as an airsoft businessman based on almost 100 individual transactions with people from all over the United States.
Then fly, fly away to these other lands, and be happy there.
I thought brining my experience and contributions to this community might help protray airsoft in Wisconsin in a far better light. But I guess I was mistaken. I don't need this garbage from you Night Stalker or Erik Ness, or whoever the hell else keeps bringing this crap up.
After all, NS and I MADE you talk like a certified moron. We have some amazing powers that make you type things that are both inflamatory and stupid at the same time. Fear us! Also, spell my name right dumbass, I don't put my real name on these boards so people can mis-spell it.
Fine. I will shut up. You can forward Admin and tell him to remove my account as well. Ban my IP range. If you want to run off someone willing to help by answering questions. Fine with me.
If it was fine with you, you'd have shut up allready. I think you crave acceptance. Get ready for failure!
But as far as giving bad advice. I suppose the worst I have given in the last few months was recommending local hobbyists join this community. If they are like you....
HS Correcting My Mistake:
Ok, I'm supposed to be thankful that he corrected me by first insulting me? And responding to an insult makes me even more of a loon. Right.
Eric's Opinion of CA:
Yeah an entire post about how CA sucks just because he read another post that boosted his own opinion of something. I thought this was a discussion board? How can you discuss something if there is no dissenting opinion? All of you seem dead set that everything CA makes is garbage.
Yet I don't see any of you willing to own any CA guns. Yeah, maybe you had bad experiences with them in the past or read about a buddy having bad experience with them. I know all about their reputation. THe CA guns I have used and seen had none of those problems or had been fixed before the problem could show up.
I also understand that new designs will have problems and issues. I gave each CA gun a fair chance and was pleasantly surprised. You are free to condemn the entire line based on your experience with a previous line. But if you are going to, you will miss out on alot of the better designs to come out since.
Eric's comments on the M249 were blatantly bashing on a gun based on one account, despite the fact that the gun had just barely come out, and CA's record was to refine most of the issues with the release version in subsequent Production runs. I apologize that he posted something I found very stupid, and that what I posted there caused such mental anguish to everyone that shares his beliefs.
Afterall, I was under the impression that anything posted on the forums by fellow members was open to discussion. I am the kind of guy who would appreciate alot more than "CA COMPLETELY SUCKS." Why would you feel that all CA products suck when the only justification you provide for that particular argurment is a rather limited article on why one person was not happy with his gun?
General Attitude towards me
Since I began posting on the WAA forums, I have constantly been reminded that I am not able to attend events. Usually this point is brought up because the person's argrument against me lacks any supporting details. You guys use it just to try to poke holes in anything I say. Again, I have gone into detail, several times as to why I cannot attend events. Yet, you guys keep bringing it up as if I'm supposed to magically appear at these events.
You just don't seem to understand, despite numerous explanations. Or you just don't care. I'm sick of it. If you think its easy to drive 5-6 hours just to go to one event, then perhaps many of you organizers would not mind setting up events at one of the paintball fields in the Chippewa Valley. You set up a game on the Western end of the state and see how many attendees will show. No, of course not. That would be crazy. Who would possibly want to make that kind of drive just to play airsoft? And just to make that point even more incredibly hypocritical, let's remind Texx everytime that the only way he will be accepted by us is if he shows up to more games.
Me becoming irritated by the fact I can't go to every weekend game and participate in the hobby I enjoy isn't enough of a problem? WHile I'm at it, I have to be called out on anything I post.
I do crave acceptance Eric. I thought this was a group of Wisconsins Airsofters. I live in Wisconsin and I own airsoft guns. I have been trying desperately for the last three years to be able to get to an actual airsoft game. Yet have had so many setbacks that I don't know if I would ever be able to attend anything apart from one or two games a year.
Why do you post on WAA forums, Eric?
TFD
As far as disrespecting TFD. When you have your fellow team members jumping in to rip on me, how do you think that portrays your team? IT is such a valiant fight to jump in and insult one person. Each of you getting your entirely mature and honorable hits in.
DOn't lecture me about disrespecting an entire team when several members of that team have already jumped in to be disrespectful to me. When it ceased being a personal matter and began to involve other members of that team, it became a team matter.
I guess you're right, Eric. Nobody cares what I have gone through to get to this point. Nobody wants my opinion. Until I can be an actual accepted member of this community, I should just keep quiet and hope that I can join the community later on when someone does care.
And since none of you guys, who are speaking so elloquently for this community, want me to post here. I won't.
If this is how you intend to treat people, how do you ever hope to recruit more people? Until you meet each person who joins, any advice or posting will come under the constant fire they are full of ____. How is that for maturity?
Whether you want to admit it or not, airsoft is changing. Your opinion that something sucks is going to quickly become outdated. You guys, right now, are about two years behind most of the other communities out there. And whether you want to admit it or not, you are going to have to evolve or you're gonna be left behind.
Guerilla Dan
22 Aug 05, 05:06 AM
HS Correcting My Mistake:
TFD
As far as disrespecting TFD. When you have your fellow team members jumping in to rip on me, how do you think that portrays your team? IT is such a valiant fight to jump in and insult one person. Each of you getting your entirely mature and honorable hits in.
DOn't lecture me about disrespecting an entire team when several members of that team have already jumped in to be disrespectful to me. When it ceased being a personal matter and began to involve other members of that team, it became a team matter.
____ you, Texx, if you're going to act like a complete ingnoramus than I'm going to treat you like one. I don't need Stalker, or anyone else telling me what to do. In fact, I was going to pull this ____ nearly a week ago, but I kept it under my hat, because I didn't want to start a feud. But hey, since the fire is already burning, might as well add a few logs, now. What you need to do is blow it out your ass. For the past 3 months I've watch you do nothing but whine, bitch, and bellyache about absolutely nothing. Here's something you might want to try:
NO MORE TEARS, LITTLE BABY.
NO MORE TEARS, LITTLE BABY.
Why thank you for illustrating so clearly what my problem was, Dan. I only hope I can measure up to your definition of a man someday. And thank you for taking such an interest in my sex life with your advice on what I should be doing. Glad to know you have taken an interest in my bowel functions as well.
I am also glad to see that you are perfectly capable of insulting me on your own, without supervision of NS. Maybe some day, he'll let you take girls or goats out on that first date. SInce you have a handle on some of the highest quality personal care products, maybe you can dazzle said date with your tremendous personal hygiene.
Its good to see that NS's words have given you the backbone needed to voice your opinions of me. Apparently, your backbone was under your hat, the whole time. Its always in the last place you look. You truly are a leader of men, NS!
I'm really feeling the love from you guys.
Eric_Ness
22 Aug 05, 06:44 AM
Eric's Opinion of CA:
Yeah an entire post about how CA sucks just because he read another post that boosted his own opinion of something. I thought this was a discussion board? How can you discuss something if there is no dissenting opinion? All of you seem dead set that everything CA makes is garbage.
You are still hard on for CA aren't you? Get over it, they have sucked they do suck, and for the foreseeable future they WILL suck.
Yet I don't see any of you willing to own any CA guns. Yeah, maybe you had bad experiences with them in the past or read about a buddy having bad experience with them. I know all about their reputation. THe CA guns I have used and seen had none of those problems or had been fixed before the problem could show up.
Why the hell would we own CA guns if you just stated that when it comes to the quality of CA noone disagrees it sucks... Your logic escapes me. Funny thing about CA, the guns you've plinked around with in your basement (since you can't make it out to games, I'm going to assume you aren't playing in your yard) or looked at may well have been good, but quite a few I have seen broke. The one I saw that didn't break was a show model for some CA reps (don't remeber if they were affiliated with a retail outfit or not) at red venom, but it sounded like ____, could have been the motor adjustment, but then again the CA mp5 that I owned for all of a week before it went belly up sounded awfully similar. Hell even my ICS mp5 lasted longer than that thing, and usualy I'd rate CA a little better than ICS.
I also understand that new designs will have problems and issues. I gave each CA gun a fair chance and was pleasantly surprised. You are free to condemn the entire line based on your experience with a previous line. But if you are going to, you will miss out on alot of the better designs to come out since.
Oh please, the fact that their new designs have problems and issues and take 3 versions to "fix" is sad. Even more depressing is the fact that even these revised versions break down at an un-healthy rate in comparison to TM guns. I really don't think I am missing anything in the CA lineup. Lets see: MP5 series...yup Tm makes those too, M15/m16 series...again TM suprisingly makes those, Ca33...TM makes it's brother the G3, G36...Holy crap TM has that covered. And as to the M249, I won't mention TOP because I personaly hold their guns in even lower esteem than CMYA, but Asahi makes an excelent M249 that can be fired untill the mag is dry in one continuous burst without the fear of destruction, something an AEG cannot do.
Eric's comments on the M249 were blatantly bashing on a gun based on one account, despite the fact that the gun had just barely come out, and CA's record was to refine most of the issues with the release version in subsequent Production runs. I apologize that he posted something I found very stupid, and that what I posted there caused such mental anguish to everyone that shares his beliefs. Read previous response's first two sentences.
Afterall, I was under the impression that anything posted on the forums by fellow members was open to discussion. I am the kind of guy who would appreciate alot more than "CA COMPLETELY SUCKS." Why would you feel that all CA products suck when the only justification you provide for that particular argurment is a rather limited article on why one person was not happy with his gun?
Aha now we get to the root of your problem. Discussion is all good and fine, and you are encouraged to voice your opinion on any post, but when you feel the need to use such base and inflamatory posts about someone's opinion, regardless of how un-founded it may be, you are in the wrong.
General Attitude towards me
Since I began posting on the WAA forums, I have constantly been reminded that I am not able to attend events. Usually this point is brought up because the person's argrument against me lacks any supporting details. You guys use it just to try to poke holes in anything I say. Again, I have gone into detail, several times as to why I cannot attend events. Yet, you guys keep bringing it up as if I'm supposed to magically appear at these events.
I didn't even know you lived in Wi. and I certianly never told you you should be coming to games to be cool. Hell I only make 3 or 4 a year anyways.
You just don't seem to understand, despite numerous explanations. Or you just don't care. I'm sick of it. If you think its easy to drive 5-6 hours just to go to one event, then perhaps many of you organizers would not mind setting up events at one of the paintball fields in the Chippewa Valley. You set up a game on the Western end of the state and see how many attendees will show. No, of course not. That would be crazy. Who would possibly want to make that kind of drive just to play airsoft? And just to make that point even more incredibly hypocritical, let's remind Texx everytime that the only way he will be accepted by us is if he shows up to more games.
Again acceptance is not gained by going to games, certianly it helps to put a face to a name on the boards, but it isn't vital to acceptance.
Me becoming irritated by the fact I can't go to every weekend game and participate in the hobby I enjoy isn't enough of a problem? WHile I'm at it, I have to be called out on anything I post.
You are called out because of you often present yourself as a sort of airsoft god who must keep the peons in check. Perhaps it is just your style of typing, but you come off as an arogant pile of ____, hence people take great joy in pointing out your short comings.
I do crave acceptance Eric. I thought this was a group of Wisconsins Airsofters. I live in Wisconsin and I own airsoft guns. I have been trying desperately for the last three years to be able to get to an actual airsoft game. Yet have had so many setbacks that I don't know if I would ever be able to attend anything apart from one or two games a year. Well you thought right, this is a group of airsofters, and we do live in Wi. If you live so far away from the games organized on these forums, take a look at other states, you might just find game to go to in another state without a horrid drive.
Why do you post on WAA forums, Eric?
It entertains me.
I guess you're right, Eric. Nobody cares what I have gone through to get to this point. Nobody wants my opinion. Until I can be an actual accepted member of this community, I should just keep quiet and hope that I can join the community later on when someone does care. Again with that acceptance thing, all it takes is the right attitude and all is well. Given the right tone, people may just care about the wisdom you have to impart.
If this is how you intend to treat people, how do you ever hope to recruit more people? Until you meet each person who joins, any advice or posting will come under the constant fire they are full of ____. How is that for maturity?
I haven't met more than a handful of these airsofters, I've met maybe 2 from Classic airsoft.net, yet I have had no problems with any of them.
Whether you want to admit it or not, airsoft is changing. Your opinion that something sucks is going to quickly become outdated. You guys, right now, are about two years behind most of the other communities out there. And whether you want to admit it or not, you are going to have to evolve or you're gonna be left behind.
I never knew TM was outdated technology, but even so, I really don't like any AEG, Classic guns are many times more entertaining to me, and their build quality is outstanding.
Night Stalker
22 Aug 05, 06:57 AM
"Yet I don't see any of you willing to own any CA guns. Yeah, maybe you had bad experiences with them in the past or read about a buddy having bad experience with them. I know all about their reputation. THe CA guns I have used and seen had none of those problems or had been fixed before the problem could show up."
Yes I have owned several CA guns. Shows again how much you know, or how little. I sold airsoft and had EVERYTHING current that CA sells. I sold their products for quite a while and will buy the M249 to try it out. So talk out of your ass some more about how you fully support CA but bought their guns used and already fixed. But we know nothing when we buy their stuff used. Once again, you don't like anyone else to offer thier opinions. Buying a used already fixed gun is hardly anyway to base your expertise about CA is it? Did you pay attention before you posted crap like that? Some CA expert indeed. LMFAO You have no base for any arguement for or even against CA when you bought their guns used and already fixed.
And Eric Ness summed it up.. Texxfriendly posts.
I corrected you because you were talking out of your ass again offering advice that was incorrect and no help. Sure poeple are wrong all the time, but when you are wrong you still push your BS as gospel. Then get pissy like a 2 yr old when nobody will listen. Same as you did on the WAP boards with your constant barrage of Bush bashing and politics. Nobody cares and an airsoft board is no place for it. You got mad when nobody agreed with you and said fine, you are leaving. Nobody wanted you to leave there and I am sure nobody wants you to leave here. But that is YOUR choice.
And further more, I could care less if you could come to a game and I never brought that up and rubber it in your face or even made the smallest post about it. Where you got that BS is beyond me and wasn't with a post about me. Must be with someone else or a figment of your imagination. I addressed comments with you about THIS post alone when you flipped out with a long tyrad (sp) about how everyone blah blah blah, I don't know I didn't give a rats ass to read most of it. So you have reasons you don;t come ot a game? Good for you, I am sure most of them are valid even if I don;t care. But when you make statement slto me and others like you did... "you are hiding behind your keyboard" what do you expect as a result. You are the one who won't come to a game, so who is hiding? I told you the games I will be at. You to shoot your mouth off or make little threats go ahead. I have little tolerance for ignorance. So be my guest. I don't hide from anyone. Ask anyone here!
And if you act like an idiot on a public forum, someone will eventually fire back. That is the reason GD fired back at you. It had nothign to do with TFD against you. Rogue didn't post until you posted that stupid lame ass banner. Don't want trouble form everyone else, don't post stupid on a public forum. I am sorry, everyone on this board doesn't bow to you as the king of airsoft and your theories. I have been playing since 1994 and they don't bow to me so why would they bow to YOU?
And your post about Eric Ness...
"and that what I posted there caused such mental anguish to everyone that shares his beliefs."
Poy calling the kettle black? You can fire at him but nobody can fire back at you. Typical Texx. LMFAO
Yes I have owned several CA guns...
I don't care how many guns you've owned, NS. I based my opinion on the guns I have experience with just as you have based yours on yours. I don't care how many guns you have sold or products used. I am talking out of my ass defending my opinion which was based on my experiences. Then how are you not talking out of your ass by defending your opinion?
Once again, you don't like anyone else to offer thier opinions...
I never bought a used CA gun, so I don't know what you're going on about. I was sent two used MP5s to look over. I was sent 1 brand new CA33 and I have used two first gen CA M15s. I had engough experience with guns to know that while they were not perfect, they held alot of potential for someone willing to do the work on them. I am by no means an airsoft expert, but am willing to share my experience to help others out.
I think that is what troubles you the most. I have my own ideas based on my own experiences. I don't come running to you guys for advice on this or that. And I don't share your opinion that CA guns are crap, because I don't feel they are.
And Eric Ness summed it up.. Texxfriendly posts.
If I am really that much a nuisance tothis community that I force everyone to be careful what I post, why haven't I been removed from it? Many of you guys ytalk out of your ass about things and people just let it go. You are embarassed that someone could scrutinize what you guys post and find fault with the mentality or lack thereof of what you post.
I corrected you because you were talking out of your ass again offering advice that was incorrect and no help.
It was your opinion that my advice was incorrect and no help. ALthough, on the used Marui MP5A4 I had worked on, the exact same problem existed and the way I was able to fix the problem was by identifying several possibilities and eliminating them with expert advice. I offered some of this advice as a possible solution to the problem. I didn't come out and say "this is definitely your problem" because unless I had the gun sitting in front of me, I just wouldn't know for sure.
Sure poeple are wrong all the time, but when you are wrong you still push your BS as gospel...
I never admit that my word is gospel, nor have I ever forced my ideas on anyone. How can you insenuate that I force my opinions on everyone while still insisting this is a free forum for people to exchange ideas? You come right out and say that I am full of ____ with your second response. How would you react if someone told you were full of ____ and then went on to say how each of your previous posts were just as much as full of ____?
Same as you did on the WAP boards with your constant barrage of Bush bashing and politics...
Constant barrage or Bush bashing? I posted one thread about Stemn Cell research, questioning the intelligence of banning research for moral reasons. Many of the people posting afterwards did not bother to address the simple issue, but bashed me because of asking the question. It wasn't until later that anyone really even looked at the topic of the thread. I was angry with them because they didn't mind bashing me entirely because of what I had posted, rather than discussing the topic at hand.
Again, how would you respond if the topic you proposed, which was not any more or less "offensive" than posts about anime characters having sex or Dick's Mom or anything else being responded to with such utter nonsense.
And further more, I could care less if you could come to a game and I never brought that up and rubber it in your face or even made the smallest post about it. Where you got that BS is beyond me and wasn't with a post about me. Must be with someone else or a figment of your imagination.
Yeah. Ok. Why does it mysteriously appear in my last post on WAP. "I should come to a game or shut up." along those lines. Why does it keep coming back along the same lines from others? I don't know whay a person would become agitated over having it repeated thrown back up their face.
I addressed comments with you about THIS post alone when you flipped out with a long tyrad (sp) about how everyone blah blah blah, I don't know I didn't give a rats ass to read most of it. So you have reasons you don;t come ot a game? Good for you, I am sure most of them are valid even if I don;t care. But when you make statement slto me and others like you did... "you are hiding behind your keyboard" what do you expect as a result. You are the one who won't come to a game, so who is hiding? I told you the games I will be at. You to shoot your mouth off or make little threats go ahead. I have little tolerance for ignorance. So be my guest. I don't hide from anyone. Ask anyone here!
You have little tolerance for ignorance, yet propegate an ignorant opinion. Sure you are hiding from the truth. You completely ignore positive reports on CA guns and choose to only use the negative to support your low opinion of them.
I have to come to a game to prove I'm not hiding behind a keyboard?
And if you act like an idiot on a public forum, someone will eventually fire back. That is the reason GD fired back at you. It had nothign to do with TFD against you. Rogue didn't post until you posted that stupid lame ass banner.
Act like an idiot. It is your opinion that I "acted like an idiot" and that I "gave bad advice" and that "I am full of ____" and that "I am talking out of my ass."
GD only fired back because you had started in on me. And everyone else jumped in as a reaction to me trying to fight back. Yeah. Ok.
Don't want trouble form everyone else, don't post stupid on a public forum. I am sorry, everyone on this board doesn't bow to you as the king of airsoft and your theories. I have been playing since 1994 and they don't bow to me so why would they bow to YOU?
I have never expected anyone to bow to me. I have never posted anything of that manner. But if you wish to use your ignorance and your opinion to put that spin on everything I have put, fine. If all of my opnions and advice are so wrong, why would admin tolerate it? Why would other people not point out how wrong I am? Is it because they just don't know or because they don't care or are they afraid I will bash them with my "God's word" - advice.
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And your post about Eric Ness...
"and that what I posted there caused such mental anguish to everyone that shares his beliefs."
Poy calling the kettle black? You can fire at him but nobody can fire back at you. Typical Texx. LMFAO
Please. You are the one with the "I've been in airsoft since 1994 and thats the way we've always thought it" - crap. I never once portrayed myself as being god's gift to airsoft. I offer my advice as most others. When someone says something I don't agree with, I post why I don't agree with them. I also give them enough reasons for that to at least allow them to understand why I would think that way or what my opinions were based on. Assuming they are open to another point of view.
Your first post claimed that everything I has said was wrong. Yet you pretty much regurgitated quite a few of the points. The second post I had about the SEF recievers and Navy recievers, you argued was full of ____, yet MP5A2, MP5A3 and Sd2 and Sd3 were available as customed modded variants using the CA SEF lower reciever. TM produced a limited edition MP5SD4.
But you claim that none of those variants ever existed. You also claim that the term "Navy" does not apply, despite the fact that Marui lists them as being "Navy-type" and that most other retailers do as well. How would this fact be wrong? it was not my opinion that these guns existed. It is a fact they are known variants of the existing Marui line. They are also in full production by CA and have been for several years. Yet, this too is wrong?
I really don't care how long you have been in airsoft, NS. It doesn't change the fact that you can easily be wrong for several years. My opinions are mostly based on facts I have learned from experience and from research.
If you don't agree with them, fine. But to openly claim my opinions are wrong while yours are right is just as childish as you claim I am being for responding to being disrespected. Again, how do you respond to someone telling you you are mistaken? It seem that you respond by telling them they are on drugs (I'm sure is a note back to a post I had made about a year ago to members claiming an M16 had a version 3 mechbox on the old forums). Then you go on to say how all of my advice I had given in the past was wrong and full of technical jargon and garbage.
If your opinion that I am talking out of my ass and that all of my previous posting was the same, why would members choose to have some of my posts sticky'ed? If they are that erroneous, wouldn't admin or mods remove it for being such?
Finally, if I am such a harsh critic of everything posted on the various Wisconsin Community boards, why would I be welcomed by som many to attend events. Why did not one of the people I met at Viper July 24th event tell me to piss off? Why is it that I get this same type of response form about five or six people?
If you are speaking for this community, don't you think more people would chime in with more agreement? Or is it because they really don't care either way. I don't know. I'm confused, NS. What makes your opinions better than mine? I'm not going to tell you your the better man. I don't know you well enough to make that kind of decision. And if someone announces something I don't agree with on a public forums, aren't I within my rights to equally oppose that?
I mean, you're arguing with me because you say you have the right to oppose ignorance. Aren't I given the same rights? If Eric didn't want his claims that the CA249 was garbage disputed, why did he post it on the forums?
Night Stalker
22 Aug 05, 08:14 AM
Yeah ok! LMFAO
Originally posted by TEXX - "If this is how you intend to treat people, how do you ever hope to recruit more people? Until you meet each person who joins, any advice or posting will come under the constant fire they are full of ____. How is that for maturity"?
I was really going to be quiet and read but DAMN!!! Single people out, not the whole team. My team at that! And for your above comment, Everyone on TFD (males anyway) are all assholes. Smartass, rude comment throwing, insulting, immature pricks. That, my friend, is why I love being on TFD and that, is why WE show up to games and usually (cough) kick ass! Not to down any other teams because every team has their own style and players but if ya don't like us, like my mom always said, if you can't play nice, go to hell.
Eric_Ness
22 Aug 05, 08:45 AM
[If Eric didn't want his claims that the CA249 was garbage disputed, why did he post it on the forums?
Are you blind or just dumb? I enjoy alternative viewpoints, especially when they are backed with fact, however you did not dispute my claims, you simply disputed my ability to have an opinon, and in a rather rude way. Belive it or not, the reason this thread turned to ____ is not that TFD and I got together and said to ourselves "Hmm I've never met this Texx guy in person let's go ahead and not accept anything he says." Rather you have brought these responses on yourself with your posting habits. And don't try that "If I'm hated why don't the admin delete me" bull____ either, I know you've had at least one thread deleted because you decided to insult someone rather than simply point out his in-accuracies.
You are still hard on for CA aren't you? Get over it, they have sucked they do suck, and for the foreseeable future they WILL suck.
Why the hell would we own CA guns if you just stated that when it comes to the quality of CA noone disagrees it sucks... Your logic escapes me.
You want me to agree with your opinion, even though my experience would lead me to believe otherwise. Right. That makes a lot of sense. Would you apply the same logic to believing the earth was flat - you've never been in space to actually see the earth was round. Yet you hold faith that everything you have been taught was true. So I'm supposed to forsake my own experience and just agree with you guys? Right. Got it.
Aha now we get to the root of your problem. Discussion is all good and fine, and you are encouraged to voice your opinion on any post, but when you feel the need to use such base and inflamatory posts about someone's opinion, regardless of how un-founded it may be, you are in the wrong.
Right. I was inflamatory for pointing out that I didn't believe the same as you and that the source you listed as being your reasoning behind your assumptive opinion was flawed. Ok. Hold these same criterion to NS's posting that I was on drugs and that all of my previous advice was wrong. Is he not also wrong for insulting me? Are you not wrong for insulting me? Or does this policy only hold for me?
You are called out because of you often present yourself as a sort of airsoft god who must keep the peons in check. Perhaps it is just your style of typing, but you come off as an arogant pile of ____, hence people take great joy in pointing out your short comings.
Ok. I present myself as an airsoft god because I know alot about alot of things. I must keep peons in check. Yeah ok. My style of typing, hmm. Perhaps if I began posting "teh TM M16 am l337 bestest gun." Or perhaps if I mispelled more words and made one long huge runon sentance w/ bad grammer and very few puctu8shuns. Yeah.
You want to point out my shortcomings. Ok.
When I was in second grade my teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom and made me give a speech on the Pilgrims to the entire 4th grade class. I peed my pants and was so embarassed I made the school nurse call my parents to come pick me up. The next day I was teased by several 4th grade boys and one of them announced tot he rest of the town while he walked home that I had peed my pants.
Everyone laugh at my shortcomings.
In 2000, my fiance took my son and left me without telling me why. She wouldn't talk to me or let me see my son. I dropped out of school, which I had several scholarships for Music Education and quit a very good paying job with a newspaper because I had sunken into depression and alcoholism. In June 2001, I left Texas because I couldn't go anywhere without running into her family or my family who always asked how my son and fiance were doing.
Everyone laugh at my shortcomings.
Make sure you laugh extra hard at the fact I haven't seen my five year old son since he was 2 years old and that he doesn't even know who I am. Make sure to laugh at the fact I live 1700 miles away from him.
I'm glad that everyone has had so much entertainment laughing at my shortcomings. If anything, I'm sure it has been a healing experience.
I can list more if you want.
Night Stalker
22 Aug 05, 09:02 AM
Yeah ok! LMFAO
Right, and along with Guerilla Dan and Eric Ness, if you don't want your opinions questioned, don't post them. Works both ways doesn't it. And you have pretty much been egging the fact to leave these forums before this post with me even started. So if you want to keep posting about leaving, fine, but don't use me as your excuse. Besides that fact, I never was the one who said you don't come to game so you don't belong here.
"I don't know you well enough to make that kind of decision."
But you knew me well enough to tell me I am hiding behind a keyboard and am basicly chicken____ to face you? LMFAO on that one.
And you never claimed about being an expert with airsoft? Almost every other word out of your mouth is "EXPERT ADVICE" Or am I, along with everyone here blind. lol And almost every other post you make, you go on about how much you have gone through to get your expert advice and how your statement above, we are behind the times about 2 years, and you much knowledge you have. If that isn't bragging your self up, you are nuts. So yeah, you post sometimes like you are almighty.
And of course your post about you know what you are talking about because you have made over 100 transactions. What do you call that? Oh you must have forgotten about that one right? So WHY are you here? We are all so stupid and behind the times, and don't know what we are talking about. We are just supposed to post and let Texx post away and not call him on anything or disagree with anything, but yet you like discussion and debate? Only when they agree with you? C'mon Texx, you know us better than that. Are you here to save us all from ourself or to give us all the knowledge nobody here has? If I want knowledge I go to Tank. He does this for a living.
And lets get this back on topic here. you still go on about all the technical BS with the triggers. I don't claim any of those guns don't exist, they do. But NONE of them apply. There is only 2 types of lower reecivers for his MP5. The SEF and the Navy TM style. All the cusotm guns you mentioned are the combo of them. (unless he has the K or PDW) And you pointed out the G36. Why? This doesn't apply either... "Newsflash.. HE HAS AN MP5" Why mention a million other things that confuse? Did you not? And that is why I posted you saying all the techincal BS that doesn't apply. Trigger groups mean nothing in that question. Why don't you go ahead and post what gearbox the PSG-1 has too. It makes about as much sense to him with his problem. Basic point, he seems to have a sloppy selector. I told him how to remove it and inspect further to be sure. You would have him replacing all kinds of internal items before checking it out. Must be that "EXPERT ADVICE" (your words not ours) you are talking about in your posts.
I will give you one thing, I cannot comment on ALL of your posts, but some of the ones I read seemed like you know what you were talking about. This thread you went out on a limb. So no, actually, regardless of what you may think, I don't think you are a complete idiot. You seem to think everyone here things the same way and we are against you. There is no "we" bud, I only know how "I" feel and cannot comment on everyone else. I don't discuss WAA forums and the people on it with other people. And as far as I know, nobody cares. It seems for some reason you got the idea because I didn't agree with your post and said you were full of ____, you blew a gasket and thought the whole WAA or group here is against you. That is not true. Where you got that I don't know.
And once again your point was put into place. It doesn't matter how many games you come to, to be a contributer here. You stated that there are others here that want you to stay so they don't feel the same way we do. I hate to tell you, I think you should stay too. Leave over an arguement? That would mean you are a wussy. I don't think you are. You are strong with your ideals and convictions and why back out, back down, or leave? An arguement is just that. It isn't the end of the world. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things and besides that, NOBODY gets along 100% of the time. What makes you, is what you do when the times are tough. Anyone can tough it out when times are easy. But the chisken____s will run when it gets rough. Did you run yet? NO, so why prove anyone right and do it now. You have just as much right to be here as I do, or anyone else. Like I said, you seem to have a problem when someone didn't agree with you or whatever, or think people want you off this board. That was before "you and me" on this thread. So that doesn't apply to me. So don't bring it here to me. And besides that, you know as well as I do, there is no "you and me" This is the forst time you and i have gotten into an argument.
If you don't like what anyone says, screw em. And that includes me. Be a man and stay. Tough it out, duke it out, get past it, and go out for a beer after the game. Know what I mean. This is about the same as the way I feel about Render. Personally he and I are different and I don't like him. I am sure he hates the crap out of me too. But you know, on the airsoft field, I respect him and have to comment nicely on the way he plays. he uses his head before shoooting anything that moves. And take Professor for instance. He and I were rocky as hell throught the years. But I like him, and consider him a friend. It just goes that way sometimes man. You know it, and so do I.
Everyone has good points,.... except me. I am an ass. (I have been for longer than I played airsoft.) But don't turn and run now because you and I had an arguement. As far as everyone else, I cannot help you there.
I apologize to everyone for being a horse's ass. There is no excuse for it so I will get straight to the beef of the matter:
I apologize for being disrespectful to you Eric, in your post about the CA249. You are certainly welcome to express your opinions on the matter and I apolgize whole-heartedly for being disrespectful to you. I was recently given an offer to borrow a CA 249, which if it is possible, I would be more than happy to bring to a game to allow you guys to take a look at it.
I apoligize for being disrespectful to Night Stalker, in his above posts. You are right about the reciever and most likely right about the problem Betro may be facing with his gun. Again, without having the gun in front of you, you just can't tell. My experiences with a singular Marui MP5A4 were basis of my advice ont he faulty selector plate or switch "brushes" as my gun had a similar problem and was fixed by replacing that particular part. Again, I did not have the A5 long enough to really give it that close a scrutiny and it was out the door a few days after I had gotten it.
I apologize to Guerilla Dan for being disrespectful to him and his suggestions. While your words may have been somewhat offensive, "simply shutting up" waas actually advice that I should have taken.
I apoligize to Rogue, Wrex, and all the other TFD members for disrespecting their team who I actually hold an incredible amount of respect for.
I apologize to this community for posting "know it all" arrogant responses. It was never my intention to do so, but nuance is also something that is very dificult to translate in words alone.
I apologize to WAA members for brining this crap to the boards.
I also apologize to Admin for bringing yet another flame war to the forums. Thank you for not simply banning me.
I will just shut up for now.
If anyone would like to discuss my shortcomings further, please feel free to contact me privately.
Guerilla Dan
22 Aug 05, 09:12 AM
EDIT: Ehh, nevemind. This argument is winding down, I'm not going to incite any more rage.
Night Stalker
22 Aug 05, 09:17 AM
GD- see, this is what happens when 2 people post at the same time. You look like an ass now huh? hahahahahaha
Texx- See, you thought we all hated you didn't you? Sorry I told you that you were full of ____.
Now go get a beer and chill dude. And stop all this BS talking about people wanting you gone. I am sure there are people that want you gone and of course want me gone too, but screw em! Unfortunatly I am here and plan to stay at least till Saturday. lol If everyone got their wish and was able to send others packing, there wouldn't be very many people here at all. But dang dude, chill out. And stay a while.
As fra as the 249, I do plan on getting one and checking it out. The new M4s seem to be good too. Their rep (CA) sucks and I never liked them. But like I said in another post, they are getting better and will have to shake that image. Time will tell. But they are getting better. I have never owned the M4, but Bill at 21st century has said nothing but good things about them. I respect his opinion. He knows what he is doing.
Sgt. Petro So after all that, did you take the selector switch off and see if that was the what was giving you trouble yet? Whats the hold up. texx and I are running out of things to talk about while we are waiting.
Eric_Ness
22 Aug 05, 10:07 AM
Since we are appologizing I figured I'd jump on that band wagon as well,
Texx, I appologize for haveing a short temper and being fairly paraniod. If I ever gave the impression that you were not wanted here I did not mean it. Your opinion is helpful in most cases, and as for CA, it really doesn't matter, as I won't be able to play airsoft for at least 2 years starting Nov. 15, and once I am able to find the time, I doubt the Airforce will post me in Wi.
As nightstalker said: grab a nice fresh can of cope snuff and pack a fatty. Life doesn't get much better than that.
Guerilla Dan
22 Aug 05, 10:19 AM
Yeah, lol. That was pretty lame. But it's better to be calm. If I had the mats i'd roll one up and chill it to some Sigur Ros. At least I have the Sigur Ros.
While we're on the topic of MP5s, I believe the ICS MP5 is one of the best designs to come in terms of ease of working on them. Marui could have taken a lesson from their own G3 and K/PDW line and applied it to the newer A/SD variants to come out.
On the other hand, the CA MP5s were a real bear to work on, especially the motor terminals which are very fragile. I hear the M15 motors are just as bad.
If you want a really good Project MP5, buy a TM gun and upgrade it with the ICS body. If you have an SD model, upgrading the suppressor to the ICS/AE threaded suppressor saves alot of heartache, IMO.
Night Stalker
22 Aug 05, 12:22 PM
I am going to have to agree with you on the TM gun with the ICS body.
I have the TM with an ICS metal. That is about the same as the AE guns. They use the ICS body but the internals are not ICS. Some peopel think they are but there is a difference. The problem with the ICS guns itself are the parts from TM are not interchangeable as good as they could be. The iCS are too problmeatic which is why we quit selling them. I do believe CA is better in that dept.
Current v. 3-3.5 ICS/AE guns have a problem with defective Tappet plates. From what I have seen it is possibly due to the cylinder having no venting giving the gun complete compression but also allowing ICS gun to be upgraded with an extended inner barrel. A second problem I have heard from several other current gen. ICS MP5s is that the spring used often loses much of its compression, causing you to lose velocity.
I will say this, from having spoken with Locutus of Airsoft Arms, ICS is very good about supplying spare parts to their customers. They also offer buyers a choice between three inidividual upgrade levels for their guns.
Locutus has also said that in the last year, having increased sales of ICS MP5s, they have had far less returns for defective parts than even their TM MP5 line, which actually is promising. But, if I buy another ICS gun, I will definitely have a reinforced tappet plate installed.
Sgt.Petro
22 Aug 05, 03:29 PM
Well...
First off let me say that I have no real preference to manufacturers. My theory is "if it works, use it."
Now, back to the problem at hand.
I disassembled the lower receiver, but not the gearbox. The tits on the selector as well as the dimples on the receiver look in great condition. Must be an internal problem, something in the gearbox. Any further suggestions? It locks in safe and full auto but kinda bypasses semi.
I had to go back to the 1st page & see what the original problem was...
If the selector switch & selector plate are good then I'd say it could one of two things (or both)...The actual trigger swicth, or the cut-off lever.
Or then again it could be the airsoft gremlins. It's hard to say without seeing it in person.
Gunney
22 Aug 05, 04:57 PM
I here ya Tank, I've gotten those airsoft gremlins b/4, them with there diabolical sabotage of AEG's :(
-Plastic & metal...not so priceless :cry:
Sgt.Petro
22 Aug 05, 06:05 PM
I'm not overly concerned. I don't really use semi much, more of a 3-5 round burst kinda guy. I was just curious. Just gonna have to break down the gearbox and see what's shakin' one of these days.
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