View Full Version : Gauging Interest- Airsoft Team Challenge
Just trying to gauge some interest in whether or not to hold an airsoft team challenge.
The idea is to hold a team competition (4 man teams) in which things like marksmanship, orienterring (sp?), timed entry, timed rescue, etc. are tested and at the end of the day, the best 4 man squad is crowned the champs of WI.
One thing to keep in mind, this would not be a traditional skirm. It would be more like the Ranger and Police challenges that you see on TV. You won't be shooting at each other, but at targets. The fun of it is to earn the bragging rights that your squad did the best. Oh yes, and there will be prizes.
Please feel free to vote. If there is enough interest, I will hold this event sometime over the summer months. (A place and date haven't been picked, so don't ask if it'll be at this place or that)
One other thing to consider, I will need a good number of volunteers to assist with scoring and set up. If you are not interested in participating in the challenge, but would like to help, let me know via PM.
-mat
I would certainly be interested. I definently want some orienteering.
hell yeah, i'll get a four man team up and going, just let me know when!
hell yeah, i'll get a four man team up and going, just let me know when!
Wooohhh, slow down there little shooter. Just gauging interest right now. If enough people like the idea, I'll check around to see what field would be best for hosting this and when they'd have availability. ;)
i loved doing these sort of things while i was a "sea cadet" and when the school offered them to be hosted by the marines, fun stuff... but this time, i get to play with a gun, lol
only thing, the guys who do it for like............................ pm commin' your way
nemesis
17 Apr 06, 06:27 PM
i already have my team picked out yay we are going to win if there is one
Black_Kade
17 Apr 06, 06:34 PM
Yeah, My four man team...Me. Myself, my Ego and my ***k.
Yeah I would do this for sure.
Jun Wen
17 Apr 06, 06:49 PM
Hey Maple, I just PM'd Gary last week about a similar event. It was geared more towards individuals, but teams could compete in events as well. The events would be against just targets and not people, however, so there would be less issues regarding cheating.
SigPro552
17 Apr 06, 07:23 PM
I'm game.
SilentScope
17 Apr 06, 07:39 PM
i'm game, i'd love to help out with the setup and running, maybe you could have one of the events where they have to clear out a buildin (if there is any on the field) and their timed, and for each time they lose a person they get docked like a certain amount of time, and the resistance (people in the building) dies they stay dead. somethin to that effect? yea anyway before i go rambling about my own dreams, i'd love to help out.
Timmay
17 Apr 06, 08:07 PM
Im not much for the targets idea, BUT it can work. Always been a fan of real live actors.
Makes threat asessment harder and more timely crucial. Cant remember how many bad guy roles i played, where i held just my hand forward and got shot like i was armed.......you FAIL! RARARARARA! ;)
To be able to run the event, i am going to need 10 people who are willing to assist for the day, rather than play.
Most likely, I will cap the event at 25 teams also. The reason behind this is that since it is a compatition, there will be a fair amount of down time between events. If there are too many teams, the down time will become too long.
Still, with 25 teams prizes (and bragging rights) should be worth the trip.
Most likely there will be 5 events, with 2 variations of each, for a total of 10 events.
I'm thinking along the lines of:
Pistol target shoot
Rifle target shoot
House/ room clearing
Dead man rescue
Orienteering
All participants would be aloud to only use one primary and one secondary weapon for the entire day. If you do not own a pistol, you would be able to share with your teammates. (so no switching between a sniper rifle and an aeg pending on the event)
More to come as interest rises. Also, please remember that this is in it's infancy, so ideas may change.
-mat
SigPro552
17 Apr 06, 08:25 PM
Sounds really cool Mat. I can't wait.
Jun Wen
17 Apr 06, 08:30 PM
Whoa, I really should read the original topic better. Sorry Maple. Haha.
Anyway, I'll help volunteer, considering that I'm not part of a team and don't have time to practice with the friends I do play with.
Here wwere some details from my original idea...
The event would be more geared toward individuals. They sign up for different events according to what they want to compete in, ranging from GBBs to bolt-action snipers. Events include single and multiple targets and whether or not a competitor has to move/reload or not... or even switch from primary to secondary.
There are a few team events, but included in the ranking is the performance of the individuals (in common events.)
To keep things moving and to reduce downtime, multiple stations could be set up around the field for each event. Assisting coordinators can help run these stations and keep track of scores to turn in to the head coordinator at the safe zone.
One more thing, as much as i like to have human targets, I would need to have a lot (I mean 50+) of people to act as targets.
So unfortunately, only paper targets are planned for the event.
-mat
p.s. Don''t think that I'll make it easy though. I want to see who the best of the best is, so expect it to be challenging.
SilentScope
17 Apr 06, 08:34 PM
in my opinion its not exactly room/house clearing with out some oposition.... chance to be hit.
One more thing, as much as i like to have human targets, I would need to have a lot (I mean 50+) of people to act as targets.
So unfortunately, only paper targets are planned for the event.
-mat
p.s. Don''t think that I'll make it easy though. I want to see who the best of the best is, so expect it to be challenging.
Whoa, I really should read the original topic better. Sorry Maple. Haha.
Anyway, I'll help volunteer, considering that I'm not part of a team and don't have time to practice with the friends I do play with.
Here wwere some details from my original idea...
The event would be more geared toward individuals. They sign up for different events according to what they want to compete in, ranging from GBBs to bolt-action snipers. Events include single and multiple targets and whether or not a competitor has to move/reload or not... or even switch from primary to secondary.
There are a few team events, but included in the ranking is the performance of the individuals (in common events.)
To keep things moving and to reduce downtime, multiple stations could be set up around the field for each event. Assisting coordinators can help run these stations and keep track of scores to turn in to the head coordinator at the safe zone.
Some what similar idea to mine, but I would be judging by total team performance vs. individual. thanks for the offer to assist. I'll shoot you a PM.
-mat
One more thing, as much as i like to have human targets, I would need to have a lot (I mean 50+) of people to act as targets.
So unfortunately, only paper targets are planned for the event.
-mat
p.s. Don''t think that I'll make it easy though. I want to see who the best of the best is, so expect it to be challenging.
One thing you way want to consider for "reactive" targets...Disposable pie tins or disposable cookie sheets. They make a nice noise when hit with bbs so you KNOW if it was hit. They also can take a TON o' hits & still hold together.
DKruse
18 Apr 06, 02:07 AM
I saw you said a 25 team limit. With that, if there is room, would it be allowed for more than one actual team to send multiple 4-man teams to the challenge? (E.G. a team has 26 people, so they want to send 2-four man teams.)
Downslide
18 Apr 06, 03:59 AM
hmmm......
Kingmob3
18 Apr 06, 06:12 AM
If I can get off of work I may be able to help with this. Would it be at the WGR field? If so you wont have enough room IMHO for a nav/orienteering course. I worked on a 48 hr orienteering event this winter in southern IN. we were useing a large portion of the Hoosier national forest, south of the Dean wilderness. The way orienteering works is to have the course be long and large enough that you cannot make up time by running.also if people make nav errors this wont be realy magnified unless they are over a mile or more between points. Another option is to have a scoro event.These are kind of like scavenger hunts, you are given a map, and markers each with a value. The objective is to obtain X # of points, deterimined by the orginizer.Shoot me a PM if you need help or advice.
KM3
FYI the Kettle Moraine national forest is only a few mins from TWGR. So we could do the NAV there...
Ianing
18 Apr 06, 06:41 AM
National Forest? Why dont we just go Geocahcing? (http://www.wi-geocaching.com/) What fun is it if we cant wear our gear? :) If we do wear our gear LARPers (http://www.larpaweb.net/) might kidnap us.
I do like this idea Mat. If we can't round up a Cobra team I would be willing to help.
SilentScope
18 Apr 06, 06:53 AM
National Forest? Why dont we just go Geocahcing? (http://www.wi-geocaching.com/) What fun is it if we cant wear our gear? :) If we do wear our gear LARPers (http://www.larpaweb.net/) might kidnap us.
I do like this idea Mat. If we can't round up a Cobra team I would be willing to help.
lol cmon what could be more fun than a military take over of middle earth lmao.
Downslide
18 Apr 06, 07:26 AM
hey, what's wrong with geocaching?
I was going to ask the same thing.... But lets keep it on topic...
SilentScope
18 Apr 06, 07:47 AM
(technically it is on topic, talking about place's to do orentering, i admit mine was a bit off topic)
i didnt say anything was wrong with it (if that question was directed at me)
i havent been there so i cant judge it.
Professor
18 Apr 06, 08:36 AM
Sounds pretty good there Col...kind like the "Combat Missions" TV show.
Ianing
18 Apr 06, 09:54 AM
Sounds pretty good there Col...kind like the "Combat Missions" TV show.
I forgot about that show. The episode I saw they had a whole box of disassembled weapons that had to be put together Rifles, Pistols, SMGS. I would hate to see what would happen if we tried the same. TM AK-14s, AEP shotguns...
I got nothing against Geocache. My parents cache, My co-workers cache. But put we in a national park and make me walk 200ft NE from the bend in the path and I'll wonder why there is no happy meal toy in that tree stump.
God knows the Navy boys are up to the task!
Stelthturkey
18 Apr 06, 11:26 AM
sounds good maple, im up for it.
(yea what RTO, WhAt?!?)
Kingmob3
18 Apr 06, 11:38 AM
Down side of geocacheing is it requires a good GPS, which can be a bit expensive. If we wanted to do an orienterring thing in the kettle marianes we would have to get park permission to do it FYI.the orginizers probably will just have to buy a $5 permit for an event though. I can point you in the right direction for makers and control punches.
KM3
sounds good gary, im up for it.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, Col. Maple (Mat) is doing it up, not Gary...
SPANKY *AK-47*
18 Apr 06, 11:50 AM
looks like no one is opposed to it so far...soooo :D
SilentScope
18 Apr 06, 12:36 PM
just quick clerification for my febal mind, oreniteering meaning, compass and a map right?
Beasthunter33
18 Apr 06, 01:31 PM
Sounds just like that one time when I was in the scouts and we had to........... Finally the bear lost our scent and we could get back to the ranger station. :)
I would be intrested in doing this. As a n00b no one really knows where I sit skill wise. And this would help me gage where I stand today and what I should work on.
Kingmob3
18 Apr 06, 01:46 PM
SilentScope, your correct.
KM3
SilentScope
18 Apr 06, 02:34 PM
i'd agree and go with you on this one, but its for a team and since i'm not on a team (yet) i'm offering my service's to help run it.
I would be intrested in doing this. As a n00b no one really knows where I sit skill wise. And this would help me gage where I stand today and what I should work on.
The orienteering would be based around what field the event is held at.
For example, if the game was held at WGRF, the back sections of the field would be used for navigation.
The course will be scaled down for sake of time. You will most likely have several points you must reach and radio in when they have been found. With the number of teams and most likely the small number of referee's/ OCs, we will keep the course relatively small.
As for the question regarding number of teams, I will most likely set the number at 25. This means that the first 25 4 man teams to sign uo will have slots. If you are on a team that has 30 members, in theory you could field 7 teams. Out of respect for all the players in the area, I will figure out some sort of system to give every established team (or indie's who form a team for the day) a chance to field at least 1 team.
SilentScope
18 Apr 06, 05:19 PM
just curiousity question here, if someone wanted to participate and help, could they maybe judge one of the events, but not participate in it? never mind... doesnt make sense to participate and judge it.
The judges/ ref's will be far too busy to compete. Figure a 10 man crew running 5 events (twice, so 10 events) for 25 teams of 4........
So it sounds like people are keen on the idea. I need to secure 10 people willing to assist for the day (I have had a few offers, but please PM me if you are serious about helping) before I am going to approach field owners about running the event. Once I have filled the 10 spots, then I will work on getting the date and further details.
-mat
Dogboy
19 Apr 06, 03:44 PM
Just an idea, but maybe get at least one person each from the various teams to help OC. I'd be willing to help out depending on the date of the perspective event.
yeah, my pm.. sent, day two ago, dont' remember, but you can count me in as a ref/oc
i'll just remember to bring my sodie pop that day
I have had several offers for OCs, only need a few more. The more OCs, the more events. Once I have reached my "10" mark, I will be contacting field owners about running the event.
One other thing I'd lie to gauge is price. I would like to be able to give away some good prizes (and need to pay for supplies and pay the field owner too), so I was thinking a $100 entry fee per team. (That's $25 per team member)
What do you all think? At that price, I'd be able to make sure the top 3 teams get some good swag. Too high? Too low? let me know.
(Wow, that rhymed.... :( )
lol... personally, i think its a fair price for the teams
SilentScope
19 Apr 06, 04:36 PM
some people might think 25 is a little steep i know i would, but you also have to factor in, if you win u get good shtuff. its only what 10? bucks more than a day at a skirm?
most larger games that do the good prizes are 20, so an additional 5 isn't much
Actually, $25 is fairly cheap. Most of us are used to the low prices that Gary charges for playing on his field, which is nice, but not the norm. Go to an out of state game or a bigger event at Apoc. sometime. You are often looking at $50+ to play.
If you all want to do this cheap, I don't have to give away prizes. Just thought people might like them.
-edit- Games that give away a handful of prizes only have to charge a few extra bucks because they are only giving out 3 or 4 good prizes. I will need to provide 4 matching prizes for 1st place, 2nd place and 3rd place. that is 12 items i need to buy. Unless i give away a bag of bb's for being the best team in the area (which seems lame to me) then I need to make some decent money for entry.
no comeon.. bbs are the ****... we all need em so they are the best prize! just give three bags to each for first, two to each for second, and one to each for third;););)
SilentScope
19 Apr 06, 04:53 PM
yea i havent actually been to a game yet so i should keep my mouth shut on the price factor but thats just my opinion and you are right, you'll need mucho mula to pay for 3 diffrent 4 matching items. have any idea's on the prize yet? or gona work out the price factor first?
First, I need to gauge attendance. Second, I need to secure a field and a date, third, I need to finalize the plan for the day, fourth, I need to set up registration. The final item I will do is figure out and purchase prizes. I hope people won't be playing soully based on what prizes are given out. I hope they play because it is something different and challenging. But, with that said, the more teams that enter, the cooler prizes will be.
Matching Sig P226 gbb's maybe..... ;)
Dogboy
19 Apr 06, 05:24 PM
Matching Sig P226 gbb's maybe..... ;)
With a gold finish for 1st, silver (chrome) for 2nd, and black for 3rd!!!:D
Damnit DB, don't encourage them. ;)
Well then mark me down for third place.
Back on topic, the price seems very fair as I trust you will set it up right and it will be more fun than a barrel o crabcakes.
Downslide
20 Apr 06, 04:07 AM
Perfect example. If you look at the August event that Joliet just posted, they have a $50 PRE registration fee.
newMP5user
20 Apr 06, 11:03 AM
yeah im interested!
SilentScope
24 Apr 06, 04:25 PM
any update as to when this might come about? and where it might be? like which fields your thinking about?
All will be reveled in due time. I am currently working to secure a time and a place, but don't expect the event to happen for a few months. Not only do I need to plan out the event, give people time to register and buy supplies and prizes, but i also need to nail down a few more helpers.
But don't fret, there is a very (and I mean very) good chance this event will take place.
More info to come as it becomes available.
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