Operation: Shahikot - Sunday March 26th

[Professor]

Operation: SHAHIKOT

This event is dedicated to the memory of Neil Roberts, US Navy SEAL, who gave the ultimate sacrifice on a mountain in Afghanistan and to all those other “operators” who also gave on behalf of our freedom. So many of them do so in locations and in actions of which we may never know. Let it be known that we appreciate it!

Tasking Order:
At 0530hrs on March 2nd 2002 three CH53s left Baghram Airbase Afghanistan carrying elements of the 10th Mountain Division and the 101st Airborne. Several hours earlier elements of the US Special Forces combined with Afghanistan Militia left their base in a vehicle column of Toyota pickups and Afghani Jenga trucks. They drove off in the early morning hours in a direction away from their intended area of operation knowing their movement would be broadcast by enemy observers and would create a distraction and misdirection. They would move to the north and at a predetermined waypoint would turn west then south to the area of operation. The plan was to perform a “pinching movement” on Taliban and Al Qaeda forces in the Shahikot Valley.

Intelligence had determined that they would encounter a small number of enemy forces, approximately 100-200, in the valley. The intelligence was wrong. The enemy forces were much stronger and they were occupying positions in the mountains overlooking the valley. Along the way, the SF and Afghani forces column was mistaken for enemy movement and attacked by a AC130 SPECTRE Gunship wounding many, killing some and destroying vehicles. This was a premonition of the battle to come. The battle began after the helicopters dropped off the regular Army forces and lasted more than 18 hours…

Date: Sunday 03/26/06
Location: War Game Field – Adell, WI
Entrance fee and 1 raffel ticket - $15, extra tickets may be purchased at $5 ea.
Time: 0830 arrive and gear up, 0900 Chrono, 1000 event start, the event will last until one force decimates another or the US forces can hold out until extraction.

AEC and field waivers required

Teams:
1) 10th Mountain – US digital or woodland camo
2) 101st Airborne – US woodland camo
3) US Special Forces – any US BDU pants with civilian tops of choice
4) Afghani Militia – civilian clothing
5) Al Qaeda – black outfits, black BDUs, etc
6) Taliban – civilian clothing

Identification:
1) US and militia - will wear color armbands.
2) Taliban and Al Qaeda – will wear no arm bands

Further details will be posted

[Ben]

If i can go, and i probably can, ill be on the 10th mountain, i have digital.

[Brigdh]

Copied over to WGR fourms

[DKruse]

Will Gary's temporary safety run-through be sufficient? or AEC only?

[Brigdh]

Not an offical reply, but lately Gary's run through has been sufficent until another AEC can be run, but dont quote me on this

[Professor]

Gary's safety briefing is accepted as an interium for an official WAA AEC but not a permanant substitution.

[RTO]

Sounds like another game that I'm loving. Errors and mistakes and the massive swarms of BHD haunt me still, and from the reading, thats what it kind of sounds like, lol.

One questoin. I'm not clear on what your defination of "digital bdu" is, so ACU and the Marine Digital and the other one (if i'm thinking correctly) are they being categorized as "digital" all in one or just a certain kind of the new camo being considered digital?

[Professor]

Yeah RTO..."digital camo" is a loose term accepting any digital pattern Army, Marine, etc US bdus. Might even accept multipat... :]

And, btw, think of being dropped off in the field and find yourself being surrounded by enemy all around you in the woods...you can try to break out and take the battle to the enemy or hold tight and just try to survive til the darkness comes because they're not bring choppers back into the LZ cuz it's way too hot!

This event was designed from the events of the opening of OP: Anacanda...and it sounds way too close to the situation depicted in the movie "We were soldiers..." and...does Custer come to mind as well?

[RTO]

ha ha ha.. reguraless, another great game planned by you professor, it is sure to be good!

[Professor]

RTO...you're too kind 'ole chap.

[Dogboy]

I have to agree with RTO. This should be good.

I am unsure of one thing. Are all of the US forces together, or is there seperate groups? 10th Mountain, and 101st Airborne in one, and Special Forces and Afgan Militia in another?

[Kenuchfleck]

Compiling a roster, Special Forces please! I mean to avenge my men’s rotting carcasses on the hills of Takur Ghar!!

Kenuch

[spraynpray]

I will be there and will be on either the USSF or the 101 and ill have a uniform for either. May also bring a few people from Oshkosh too, Ill find out more about that and let you know.

[Vigilante]

Stick me on w/e team ya want prof. I will be wearing my MC.

[Professor]

Yep DB - 10th Mtn and the 101st are choppered in and the SF and Militia are in another trying to put a "pinching move" on the Taliban and the Al Qaeda.


Hey Vig...what's an MC?


Kneuch...great to hear tha "Horses" will be coming we'll make a spot fer ya ole chap!

Spraynpray...thanks fro your flexibility....depending on the "showing" I may have to move people around. Bring yer friends on!

Hey gang...need people to play Bad Guys too!!!!!

[Vigilante]

:D ;) MC= Multi cam. I learned you something

[Professor]

Ah....now yer just showing off ;) . Very kool. Where'd ya get it?

Anyway, you tell me where you prefer, but you may have to be flexible depending on who shows and how many, etc.

[Vigilante]

I would prefer the 10th mountain.

I got it at gary's. Van makes it. Really good quality, you will see it at the game I guess too.

[Downslide]

It Looks like I may finally be able to get back out.

Sign me up for 10th Mountain, and I may be able to get a friend in on it as well.

[The_Jackal]

Is this "The Battle for/of Roberts Ridge"? Well anyway this sounds like a good game, prof. never dissapoints.

[Razor]

Sounds good Prof! If it works in your plans I'd like to be on Al-Queda please.

[RTO]

darn you.. you always go on the opposite team as me, and i might be forced to say hit and yell at you and call you an ass because you can't hear me call out over your gun firing, lol.. j/k.. you will be a worthy opponent!;););)

[Professor]

Jackal -
Actually this is the opening of Operation:Ananaconda and not the "Battle for Roberts Ridge"....even though the event is dedicated in his specific name. However, keep in mind the dedication is more in memory of all those "unknown operators" who have and will fight in battles and locations we may never of on behalf of our freedom.


Razor -
I was counting on you...thanks! Now, who's with him?

[Klootzak]

Hey. I will be what ever the hell you want me on. Put me as a bad guy. I dont really mind. Hey what color do i have to wear. WIll brown work i really want to be the giant brown log again in my carhearts lol. Well talk to you all later

[Professor]

Okay Klootz...you're a bad guy, Taliban in particular...wear anything except US bdus...brown, grean...up to you.

[Kenuchfleck]

Okay Professor,

Looks like I have 4 Ponies +1 friend for Special Forces..

[Downslide]

okay, so my buddy is probably going to be able to make it to this one (finally!)

Prof, you can sign us up for 10th or Special forces.

[Professor]

Gotcha Kneuch...5 for the US SF.

[Professor]

Yer on Downslide...10th Mnt it is.

[The_Jackal]

Ill take 10th Mt. or US Spec. Ops.


Prof, I saw a program about it on the Military Channel (Best channel ever....nest to maybe the Playboy channel ;) ) anyways, it was called Operation Annaconda: The Battle of Roberts Ridge. I guess that's waht they are calling that battle in memory of him.

[Fish]

I will gladly help balance things out on taliban unless Echo had a different plan prof.

[Professor]

Jackal - gotta admit I'm a Military Channel junkie too! Yes, the OP: Anaconda remake done there was pretty good but focused on Takur Ghar (Roberts Ridge) specifically. This event is planned around the opening of OP: Anaconda and not about Takur Ghar. That was just one sad incident in the entire operation. .....I'll put you w/ 10th Mtn.

Fish - thanks you...yes I'd appreciate it if Echoians played bad guys but if they choose to wear DPM then I'll hookem up with the US SF team.

[Professor]

FYI -

The event will be broken into two sections with the second being defined by the results of the first -

The first will be from approx 10:00am up to lunch / 12:30pm

The second will be from approx after lunch / 1:30pm til 3:30-4:00pm

Lunch will last NO longer than 1 hr. Please get yerselves fed and re-geared in that time. Plan accordingly.

[Stylin7]

Prof,
Tiger Recon will be taliban forces. We have about 6 or 7 confirmed right now.

[newMP5user]

finally i have a day off that co-incides with airsofting... i WILL be there with lots of enthusiasm, upgraded gun. and hopefully a hicap or two!

[RTO]

aye, professor, if you wonldn't mind siging up both pyrokid, and stelthturkey for the US Side, it would me much appreciated

[Professor]

TigerRecon as Taliban...gotcha.

NewMP5 - what side?

RTO - got it...

[Professor]

Here are the team signups I have thus far...got a good number of bad guys. Now I need some more 101st and Afghani Militia!


OP:Shahikot – Team Assignments

10th Mtn:
Ben
RTO
Vigilante
Downslide & friend
Jackal
Pyrokid
Stelthturkey

101st:
Spraynpray

US Special Forces:
Kneuch & Pale Horse Riders = 5

Afghani Militia:
?

Taliban / Al Qaeda
Razor
Klootzak
Echo - Fish, Element, Joker, and Kit
Overkill, Bushrag, Rex, Dino, and possibly 1 more
LighteningFast
TigerRecon – count of 6 or 7

[Vigilante]

Yea, Jackal, since you are hitting this up, you can give me the 10 dollars you owe me. :D

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

I think my dad wants to try out the sport and I have an extra marpat top he could use (although hed use khakis for pants...atleast they'd blend in with the main field at garys ;) ), so put me and him (probably) down for 10th mountain, thanks.

[Scratchy]

Um. I guess newbies can't go to this game? Since I don't have an AEC or been to Gary's safety thing?

[Maple]

I would suggest sending Gary a PM to see if he will be running a safety briefing before the game. As Prof. set this one up, he may have forgotten to add whether or not one would be held.
-mat

[newMP5user]

al queda for me. who can use radios? or are they even allowed?

[newMP5user]

out of curiosity, if someone has urban camo, what side would that make him/her on?

i Might have one more person coming along, a newbie if you will!

[Scratchy]

Ok.. I just ordered some woodland BDUs.. and if I get them before the game and
I'm allowed to play.. I'll come :D

[Professor]

Gruzniak - I'll put you and your Dad on either 10th Mtn or the 101st.

Scratchy - contact Gary at The War Game Room and he'll coordinate for you to attend his safety training early before the game. If you wear woodland I'll put you on the 101st.

The Col was correct, but I didn't forget...I just figured Gary had said it enough times.

NewMP5 - we'll figure out a spot for them, but unless there is snow on the ground Urban will stand out a bit. Might want them to dress in civies that blend in a bit and have them be either Afghani Militia or Taliban. Otherwise, we'll figure out something,

[garyb]

I will be at the field at or before 830am. Anyone needing the safety briefing be there at 830am so you can get it in so you can get ready for the game. The Safety briefing will take up to 30 minutes.
If you need the briefing let me know so I know how many to plan for.

[Sanchez]

hey scratchy if im not mistaken you dont have to take the AEC if your over the age of 18 but is still recommended. Dont quote me on this though

[neo57601]

I will be attending, also add Leppy to the Taliban team

[garyb]

That is correct it is for players under 18, however it will be offered to anyone that would like to take it.

[Roadkill]

I will probably be attending with Gruzniak and his Dad. If you want I could lend his dad a pair of OD pants or Woodland pants. Throw me on with Gruzniak I guess. 10th Mtn. or 101st.

[BoBgOdS66]

You can stick me on 10th Mt. as well prof. Ben and I are brothers and I forgot to log him out, heh heh.

[Roadkill]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone would have an extra MP5 Hicap (or any other MP5 mag) for Gruzniaks dad to use. Right now he will only be using 2 30rd mags and he wont be carrying a speedloader. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Downslide]

Yeah, I've got a hicap, and I may even have a mid or two, depending on how many my buddy wants to carry.


- just call me the loanerguy...

--Professor, I am definitly going to be there. I am moving this weekend, and may have pissed my fiance off, but I need to get out and shoot something!!! :D

[Roadkill]

Ok, That would be sweet. I dont think 2 30 rd mags would be too sufficient, especially for someone who probably hasnt got the trigger control down. :)

[Uncle Rico]

Yeah i'll be there with spray and pray, i want to be on USSF

[Downslide]

Looks to be a nice day for tromping in the woods...though not terribly accurate for an afgani skirm...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/Downslide/fieldforcast0326.jpg

that's from Cascade, WI by the way...

[Professor]

Hey Uncle Rico...do you know SpraynPray requested to be on 101st? Just checking in case you wanted to be teamed up with him?

[Scratchy]

lol.. am I gonna be the only in the 101st? :o I know there's this whole thing about "an army of one". but ya know :s That would be taking it a bit too literally. :D

[spraynpray]

Yeah, he knows but he doesnt have a full woodland bdu and he likes to be "special" so............ anyway I'm bringing one other person for sure and he's going to be wearin digital so I guess he'll need to be on 10th mountain.He will also need Gary's saftey course thingy.


Scratchy don't worry ima be on da 101 :D

[Professor]

SpraynPray - Got ya on the additional friend on 101st, but you need to talk to Gary about the safety course.

[Professor]

Still need some Afghani Militia - see Gary at WGR to get the appropriate outfit. He now has Afghani Northen Alliance style outfits for a very reasonable price!

Here's the team assignments thus far -

10th Mtn:
Ben
RTO
Vigilante
Downslide & friend
Jackal
Pyrokid
Stelthturkey


101st:
Spraynpray
Gruzniak and Dad
Knob and Blitz
Scratchy


US Special Forces:
Kneuch & Pale Horse Riders = 5
Uncle Rico

Afghani Militia:
?


Taliban / Al Qaeda
Razor
Klootzak
Echo - Element, Joker, and Kit
Overkill, Bushrag, Rex, Dino, and possibly 1 more
LighteningFast
TigerRecon – count of 6 or 7
NewMP5user

[Stylin7]

Prof,

Tiger Recon can be the Afgani Militia if needed.

[Professor]

Thanks Stylin...I'll keep that in my back pocket for last minute switch if needed. I may just drop the idea of Militia or swap some Taliban to that role as you suggested. Honestly, they were a bit "hesitant to fight" after having been straffed by a Spectre Gun Ship so not having any nay acurately reflect their "participation level". :(

[Roadkill]

Dont forget to put me down for 101st Professor.

[knob]

Also, to note prof.. We have one more guy in our group attending, by the name of RED EYE (also known as brown eye), so if you could please put him on 101st...

[Professor]

Gotcha Roadkill and Knob ...Red/Brown Eye?

[Professor]

Stylin - With the way the numbers are stackin up I may just leave the Tiger Recons where they are and forget Militia...unless I get some last minute signups.

[Stylin7]

Prof- Since uniforms would be the same we will be prepared either way.

[Professor]

You're a good man Charlie Brown...uh, I mean Stylin ;)

[Kenuchfleck]

I'm wondering outloud here, but since the SF is amost all Ponies except for one other very welcomed individual:) I plan on being the CO of that group. Is there anyone else in the 10th Mountain or 101st that would like to be known as the go to guy for each respective unit?

My last experience in Afghanistan was dreadful, (Takur Ghar). The US teams were all over the place and didn't coordinate a single effort and thusly got ripped to shreds all day long, (except for the pilot rescue of course which we just barley pulled off:)

Any thoughts, feedback?
Kenuch

[The_Jackal]

Ill take 10th mountain.

[Kenuchfleck]

Thanks Jackal,

I'm sure either the other mates won't mind or we'll be fragged within the first ten minutes:) Anyways, I know when the plastic starts flying it'll be a good thing that you can radio me and be assured if you need help or want to link up we'll be showing up in force as a unit. By the way, I'm making a map of the Wargame Room with a grid on it for each unit CO . The grid map will make unit movement, position, rally points and the likes soo much easier, well, it would be alot easier if the Taliban went home too:)

[Professor]

The US forces will be provided further battle plans at the event and what will represent "last minute" Intel updates. The strategy is for the 10th and the 101st to set up a blocking position into which the SF forces will drive the enemy forces.

The "last minute" Intel will be providing updated numbers and locations of the enemy positions and may cause the US forces to alter their original landing zones/insertion points and location of the blocking positions.

So, as Kneuch has so deftly identified, it would be wise for the US players to begin coordinating a chain of command and communications procedures. It will be imperative that you operate as a team to successfully accomplish the planned incursion.

Now, the enemy forces will be given "advantages" that will enable them to emulate a "large force" by providing them a generous regeneration process. As well, we all know how good battlefield intel goes so the accuracy of the US information may be questionable.

Good luck gentlemen...you'll need it.

[KOPFSCHUSS]

Sign me up for the 10th Mtn Professor.

[Professor]

Gothca KOPFSCHUSS...10th it is.

[Professor]

Current known player count is approx 40

[Kenuchfleck]

Jackal,

Do you have two walkies? One walkie for unit chat and a seperate command channel that only you, me and 101st CO's would use to chat with each other?. I myself have two walkies..

[element365]

I've got a couple friends coming. They would prefer to be bad guys, but you can place them whereever you want.
Their callsigns are zero and deathstrike

[The_Jackal]

Yea dude, I got Fing 6. But yea...Ill be able to have 2. but do we really need 2 diffent ones. COuldn't you just say "Team Leaders go to Command channel" or somthing?

[Brigdh]

sign me up for the Taliban

[Kenuchfleck]

Yes Jackal I guess you could just use one, but I was thinking I don't want or need to hear 10th M and 101st radio squak any more than you want or need to hear the SF guys. Also, my walkie is tucked away in a molle pouch on my back and is inaccessible unless I take my entire rig off! So for me it would be better to have my unit's walkie (the one on my back which is a throat mic/earbud) and another seperate walkie mounted frontside where I can just pick it up and talk directly to you:)

Look at it like you have a radio man following in your footsteps who is always dialed into headquarters, just like in the Nam movies, only I hope you don't get your arm blown off just like every other vietnam war movie radio man!!

[Maple]

Yea dude, I got Fing 6. But yea...Ill be able to have 2. but do we really need 2 diffent ones. COuldn't you just say "Team Leaders go to Command channel" or somthing?
Jackal, yes you could, but it is sometimes a bear to switch channels, especially in a fire fight. I often carry two radio's, one on team channel and the other for radioing OCs if need be. I would reccomend running two for the day, so you don't have to switch channels constantly.
-mat

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Seriously, constantly changing channels is a hassle, plus you might accidentally hit the "call" button or something, than everyones walkie talkie turns into a siren, and if they are trying to sneak around, it probably isn't gonna work out.

[Kenuchfleck]

Yes, I echo what Maple the Red stated, and that's only because he beat me to the post because I proofread my posts way to many times, or it looks like we posted at exactly the same time!

[Downslide]

This is coming together really nicely.

Since the 10th is getting pretty crowded, Professor, why dont you move my buddy and I over to the 101st (we have woodland) and I'll take the squad leader role, if that's okay with everybody else.

I too have two radios available, and would love a shot at it.

[Vigilante]

Honestly, I think we should nominate our leaders, instead of people just stepping up, cuz some people may not like the leaders at all. Plus the more experienced people should have leader roles.

[RTO]

aye, i do agree with you buddy. i feel leaders should be appointed game day, at game time

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Honestly, I think we should nominate our leaders, instead of people just stepping up, cuz some people may not like the leaders at all. Plus the more experienced people should have leader roles.


http://www.solarnavigator.net/images/mutiny_on_the_bounty_film_1935.jpg

[Maple]

Honestly, I think we should nominate our leaders, instead of people just stepping up, cuz some people may not like the leaders at all. Plus the more experienced people should have leader roles.

Why should only experienced people be team leaders? I have played airsoft for 4 years and I suck at being a squad leader. Sometimes you gotta let somebody with no leadership training take the reins and try it out.

[Kenuchfleck]

Hey Downslide,

Expereince is the best teacher and I think you'd do just fine:) You may want to pm the other mates in the 101st and see if they're coo with it though.. We don't want to step on toes but we also don't want to wait and find out who's unit CO the day of:)

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Why should only experienced people be team leaders? I have played airsoft for 4 years and I suck at being a squad leader. Sometimes you gotta let somebody with no leadership training take the reins and try it out.


Yeah, Mike Sherman sure ended up working pretty well, right guys?

[Vigilante]

Yeah, Mike Sherman ended up working pretty well, right guys?


Yea, he's my janitor now.

[RTO]

Hey Downslide,

Expereince is the best teacher and I think you'd do just fine:) You may want to pm the other mates in the 101st and see if they're coo with it though.. We don't want to step on toes but we also don't want to wait and find out who's unit CO the day of:)

i just want to bring up the point that really, the stepping up idea is great, yes... but if he has to notifiy all the people on 101st, why shouldn't the one on 10th notifiy everyone and square it away?

[Downslide]

Just because I'm a new face to airsoft in WI doesn't mean I would be an incompotent leader. I don't have a problem with somebody else doing it, I just would like to. Vig, If you don't like the idea, I don't have a problem with that either. But I think Kenuchfleck is right; it would be better, and probably more fun, if the squads were a little more organized before we step on the field on Sunday.

[Kenuchfleck]

Yes Jackal should kindly pm all mates on 10th and see in they're coo with him as unit CO and if they're not he should thank everybody for considering him and back out. Or if 10th and 101st want to they can kindly figure it out gameday:) And, if ten people suddenly jump into SF, then I will kindly resubmit my bid for SF unit CO and kindly bow out if that is not what the mates want..

[OverKill]

on behalf of all the enemy forces we are more then ok with all us forces not organizing there leadership :D

[RTO]

you just... go hide in a bush! lol... we'll have it all figured out, you just watch, we'll probably still get our butts kicked, but we'll have some form of organization! ;);)

[OverKill]

you just... go hide in a bush! lol... we'll have it all figured out, you just watch, we'll probably still get our butts kicked, but we'll have some form of organization! ;);)

na I see my self running into the wide open and going down in a blaze of bullets.

[RTO]

putting your hands up in the air, acting like you have no gun and then pulling a trap out from under your shirt?

[Kenuchfleck]

Don't let overkill get to close, he has those explosive satchels on his chest :o

Also, Prof, can I call in airstrikes on quarter mile size grid locations:)

[Professor]

Okay mates...work this out honorably...but work it out amongst the people on the squads. I suggest that you use a nomination and vote method :D


Now as for the bad guys...Al Qaeda people will be leading the entire bad guys as the Taliban were basically subserviant to them :o . Otherwise, running about unorganized would work, but like the US forces I would suggest working out a leader and command structure of some sort.

[Professor]

Hmmm....airstrikes...thats a possibility, but watch out for "Danger Close" ;)

[OverKill]

Don't let overkill get to close, he has those explosive satchels on his chest :o

Also, Prof, can I call in airstrikes on quarter mile size grid locations:)

can bring my new mortar launcher as for the explosive satchels anyone who saw it has to admit it was pretty creative.

[Professor]

Element got yer friends on the bad guys list

Bagdh got you there too.

[Kenuchfleck]

I can think of no better way than airstrikes to dislodge pesky taliban, that or maybe yelling out lunchtime:)

[Downslide]

exactly. dont forget the extra satchels of peanut butter and marshmallow fluff sandwiches to throw at them...

[RTO]

ha ha ha.. reminds me of "robin williams live" ha ha ha..


renoucing, and joining up with...... we shall see

[Professor]

Hey Gary...be sure to have my "helicopters" available for the game and also please be sure to bring your chrono.
Thanks

[Beasthunter33]

But there in caves right, whats a standard airstrike gonna due to a cement bunker 50ft. under ground. Not much I'd say.

[RTO]

ask the pilots carpet bombing from 30000 ft about what they are/did against cave dwellers, lol.. but this aegis cruiser.. hmmmmm, shall we call the tomahawks

[Scratchy]

Daisycutters FTW!

[OverKill]

I can think of no better way than airstrikes to dislodge pesky taliban, that or maybe yelling out lunchtime:)

no fair I quit smoking and all I do now is eat :cry:

[Beasthunter33]

Chew some gum. staying on topic helps too. ;)

[Scratchy]

Since we were talking about radios.. I have two FRS radios. but don't have any headsets or anything. Will I need a headset?

[RTO]

nope, headsets arn't needed, only helpful

[Uncle Rico]

Uncle Rico here, i wanna change over to the 101st if possible, that is if i can find my bdu top, hehe, plz put me down for 101st not USSF, thanx :]

[Professor]

Ah, caves, a perfect target for MOAB :D ...unfortunately the blast radius will proably take out the US forces in the area too :o

[Professor]

Rico...no longer wanna be SF...how could you? Alright, it's back to the "regular" Army for you!

[Professor]

OP:SHAHIKOT Regeneration and Hit Rules

Everyone prepare yourself for a change from the norm regarding regeneration and hit rules for this event.

In the attempt to increase the “realism” I am going to be implementing some new regen/medic and hit rules for this event.

We will be using limited regeneration and medic rules to cause you, the player, to change the mode of your play to more directly reflect a feeling of “you only have one life and a single shot will take it – no regens exist in real life” and to minimize the occurrence of players running headlong into a hailstorm of BBs because they know they just regen shortly anyway.

Unlike other events where a player is granted numerous regens/medic lives, it is possible with these limited “life rules” that you may either sit out for a while until re-entering the battle or until the beginning of the second event after lunch depending when your “lives” are expended. Please approach this with an open mind and alter the manner you play this event to better “stay alive”.

Additionally, I will implement in this event a modified hit rule. A player will be “wounded” if they take a hit to a leg or arm and that extremity will be unusable until being medicated or regenerated. If a player takes a hit to the body or torso it will be considered a “kill shot”. Honor will be expected for this as with any other hit. Remember “When in doubt, call yourself out!”

These modified rules are an experiment I hope will come out successfully and eventually be utilized in other future events. The success of this experiment highly depends on you, the player, approaching them with an open mind and making adjustments to your style of play to accommodate them. I greatly appreciate your cooperation.

The specifics as to the number of regens and the process of doing so will be provided at the event.

STAY LOW AND MOVE SLOW!!!

[Downslide]

The idea of added realism and "wounds" vs. regeneration sounds great. Hopefully it will make people think before they act, taking the skirmishes yet another step farther away from "paintsoft."

As it turns out, reality has once again reared its ugly head in my life. I will have to withdrawl from Sunday, which pisses me off because it sounds like it is going to be an awesome game, Prof. my buddy called last night and his wife was pissed, because he's working 6 12 hour days this week (he's a car dealer) and so he figured discretion is the better part of valor, so he ducked on me. And as my move gets closer, stuff has come up that has prevented me from properly prepping for it during the week, so I may not be finished by Sunday.

[Scratchy]

oh no... who am I suppose to borrow mags from now? :cry:

[Roadkill]

oh no... who am I suppose to borrow mags from now? :cry:

Oh man, He was my mag supplier also. So, anybody got any extra MP5 mags Gruzniaks dad could borrow? Any help would be appreciated. :)

[Downslide]

Hehe..er sorry guys.

Tell you what..I can still send the mags up with Kenuchfleck or Professor, or Maple, or somebody else heading up from my area. I'll mark them as mine, before hand so they don't get mixed up. I should be able to scrounge up 3 or 4 midcaps each.

I have no problem loaning out stuff as long as you guys take care of it. My only rule is "you break it or lose it, you bought it." Fair enough?

Mark

[Roadkill]

Downslide, That sounds good. You could just put a colored tape on the bottom of the MP5 mags if you wanted to, just so everyone would be able to tell they are yours. So, should I just give the MP5 mags to Professor after the skirm? Thanks.

Sorry if I'm being a pain in the butt. :cry:

[Scratchy]

That would be awesome Downslide. I promise next skirm I will have some mags of my own :D

[Downslide]

I will contact the guys around here between now and saturday night. Know matter who has them, I will make sure the Professor knows. Since its his OP, you guys (especially Scratchy) will be able to find him easily enough, and he can point you in the right direction. I will PM you both with the instructions that I (and who ever plays delivery guy) have arranged for me to get them back.

[Roadkill]

Professor, In regards to the new hit/regen rule, if you shoot at someone and hit them in the arm or leg (non-lethal) should you just keep moving along or keep shooting for the kill. Because if you hit them and they start calling for a medic I dont think peole would appreciate it if you kept shooting at them, but Im not sure.

Also, do two arm/leg hits count as a kill?

[element365]

If they are actually killed, then they should put their kill rag on. If it is just a leg/arm hit, then there should be no kill rag.

[Roadkill]

If they are actually killed, then they should put their kill rag on. If it is just a leg/arm hit, then there should be no kill rag.

I meant if you hit someone in the arm they are supposed to call a medic to be tagged. But do you keep shooting at them to kill them or let them be?

[element365]

I'd keep shooting at them. They can still shoot back and run/hop around all they want. No Geneva convention for us Al Quada. ;)

[Roadkill]

No Geneva convention for us Al Quada. ;)


I'll keep that in mind while I.....hmph....dont have any idea where I was going with that........

I think this new regen rule will be pretty cool.

[RTO]

Professor, i like the rule, and i hope it all goes well. I am assuming that this is for EVERYONE playing that day, not just the US side?

[Skullman]

Well you can add my son and I to the Special Forces squad. Sounds like it should be a fun day.Will be there early so we can go through the safety briefeing too.

[Kenuchfleck]

Good to have you along for the ride Skullman! The Pale Horse and I welcome you into the Special Forces!

Kenuch

[Professor]

I posted this earlier, but because I can't edit the original it got lost in the clutter -

This is a two part event.

From the start till approx 12 noon and then the second part from approx 1 to 3 or 4pm approx.

Try to take whatever you need during each part onto the field as if you were US being inserted into the battlefield or as if you were bad guys and were temporarily living there...

[Professor]

Roadkill - there are a couple of approaches to your question. So, here goes -

1) If you hit someone in the arm or leg they are wounded and may use the other to shoot back. IN that case they are saying you can shoot them back and kill them with a torso shot.

2) If they fall down or stop and begin shouting for a medic you could a) keep shooting them till they are dead and can't call for a medic or b) you could stake them out and wait for them medic to come and try rescue them so you could get them too.

BTW, the "wounded" person can limp if hit in leg or shoot with other arm if hit with arm and can shout for medic. Dead people are dead and cannot call for medic, cannot talk in any fashion. They can wait where they are for the possibility of being medicated if the have medic rules or if they do not they will walk back to appropriate regen point.

Further details provided at event.




Professor, In regards to the new hit/regen rule, if you shoot at someone and hit them in the arm or leg (non-lethal) should you just keep moving along or keep shooting for the kill. Because if you hit them and they start calling for a medic I dont think peole would appreciate it if you kept shooting at them, but Im not sure.

Also, do two arm/leg hits count as a kill?

[Professor]

RTO - the hit rule will apply to both sides, but the regen/medic rules may vary by side.



Professor, i like the rule, and i hope it all goes well. I am assuming that this is for EVERYONE playing that day, not just the US side?

[madhaTTer]

Yeah... if i can get off of work count me in for Al-Queda please.

[newMP5user]

im getting more excited with all the changes and players that are coming! can i bring my trusty camel? and can we have executions? haha ill bring the video camera!

[OverKill]

weather looks like it will be great for the game tommorrow high of 42 and sunny all day with a 5-10 mph wind

[knob]

We will bring the M.O.A.B.

[seppuku]

Professor,

Would tiger stripe work as valid BDU pants for a US Special Forces operative?

[Professor]

Yes Sep

[Klootzak]

i wont be making it after all :-( caues my gun is in the paint shop :-(. well talk to you all later

[Scratchy]

Did Downslide contact any of you about the stuff he was gonna lend out?

[Stylin7]

Prof,
Tiger Recon count is up to about 10 between team and friends of team.

[Roadkill]

Did Downslide contact any of you about the stuff he was gonna lend out?

Thats a negative on my part.

[The_Jackal]

It figures. I get all pumped up for this game, and I get the flu. JUST ****ING GREAT!! Sorry guys but I wont be able to make this game. :cry:

[Scratchy]

I might not be able to play then.. If Downslide didn't give you guys the gear.... I have no goggles and no mags... If he doesn't pm me soon I won't be going.

[Scratchy]

Well..sorry guys.. I won't be going anymore. Don't want to show up after a 2 hour drive and not have any mags or goggles. I'll be coming to the next game I guess. I'll have goggles then.. and hopefully some mags.

[RTO]

great game all, thanks gary for the use of the field yet again.

i guess we know why the us is still in "over there" lol... but no, great job at every attempt that everyone made today, you made the day of pain (that i went through) worth every moment of it.

now i'm going to take down my guns, put them back on their respective racks, and then grab a bag of peas and ice my hip, back, and finger (anyone who saw me at the end would have seen the grenade pop in my hand and all of it hit my finger).

thanks to everyone who came, pleasure to play with you!

[Professor]

Thanks everyone for coming today. I hope everyone had fun. I also appreciate the feedback and will make adjustments accordingly...Kneuch, no more in flight firing at the helos :]

Gary, thanks for the use of your field as usual...hope you had fun playing instead of running the store and OCing.

The US made a valiant return in the final event and just about made the extraction point in the second to last...good job guys. But, sorry to say it appears that the Bad Guys had the upper hand for most of the day. Don't worry though, we'll have to have a "OP: Return to Shahikot"! ;)

[Roadkill]

Great game Professor! When do you think you will have all 5 pics up that you took before the battery died? Thanks everyone for coming, and killing me with in the 1st minutes of the 3rd game.

Oh yeah, and thanks DaemonDog for falling on me in the mudpit I like to call a bunker. HAHAH

[Doc]

Was a fantastic game, hope I was able to help out in some way. Big thanks to gary for the use of the field. The weather was alot better than I thought it would be.

Pic 1 (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/shahikot%20001.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/shahikot%20015.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/shahikot%20017.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/shahikot%20018.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/shahikot%20023.jpg)
Pic 6 (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/shahikot%20029.jpg)
Special forces group photo (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/special%20forces.jpg)

[Brigdh]

it was fun, until i lost my shoe :)

how come those pics aren't posted doc? it was funny :D

[Doc]

The two pictures I took didn't turn out well at all. But here is one (http://home.wi.rr.com/imgsrc/muddddd.jpg)

[RTO]

ha ha.. you can see my butt, and backside, in that picture. lol... t'was a great expierence walking up to what looked like a guy getting it on with a tree, but then seeing the other guy in the sinkhole two seconds later. i tried to help, but that log wouldn't accomidate two people trying to pull. just glad your gun, or anything too expensive, got stuck in there. sorry for the loss of the shoe, it was a great boot i assume:cry:

[Professor]

Roadkill and others...my pics won't get up for about a week as I leave this morning "on a a jet plane" for work...

[Downslide]

I will officially label myself as a major jerk.

I sincerely apologize for not coordinating with somebody to get you guys the gear I said I would. All I can do is try to make it up to you.

I ran into a personal emergency regarding my exwife and her nearly fleeing the state with our daughter, a situation that did not get resolved until Sunday morning.

I am planning on going to the skirm this Sunday (4/2) but obviously the damage was done for this event.

Again, I apologize.

Mark

[Scratchy]

Hey Downslide,

Don't worry about it. I kinda figured you had some emergency or something. Besides there are plenty more games I can go to. So it's all good. :)

[Roadkill]

Downslide,
Yeah dont worry about it. Getting your daughter from your ex-wife is WAY more important then lending out a few mags. And I doubt the mags would have helped they guy who needed them anyways. hahah.

[Scratchy]

Hey! What's that suppose to mean? :o

[Vigilante]

ha ha.. you can see my butt, and backside, in that picture. lol... t'was a great expierence walking up to what looked like a guy getting it on with a tree, but then seeing the other guy in the sinkhole two seconds later. i tried to help, but that log wouldn't accomidate two people trying to pull. just glad your gun, or anything too expensive, got stuck in there. sorry for the loss of the shoe, it was a great boot i assume:cry:

That guy in the sinkhole? Was that at the last part of the game when you tried to sneak around?

[Brigdh]

no, that was me about 20 minutes into the game :)

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

I will officially label myself as a major jerk.

I sincerely apologize for not coordinating with somebody to get you guys the gear I said I would. All I can do is try to make it up to you.

I ran into a personal emergency regarding my exwife and her nearly fleeing the state with our daughter, a situation that did not get resolved until Sunday morning.

I am planning on going to the skirm this Sunday (4/2) but obviously the damage was done for this event.

Again, I apologize.

Mark


Yeah, don't worry about it. I know there was someone else wanting to use mags besides my dad, but the 2 30 rd star mags he had ended up being sufficient enough, sorry to hear about the family troubles, though.

[element365]

Fun game. Too bad my gun died.

[Kenuchfleck]

To my Team:
If it weren't for dedicated CO's and some really talented and smart playing by US operators and troops the day had the potential to be a total route! But the men in the 10 Mountain, 101st, and Special Forces fought with vigor and determination, every man who left that field Sunday had something to be proud of. I'd like to say "You guys rock!" to the Special Forces; Foochild, Jimmy, Jeff, Headshot (Kopfschuss), Skullman, Skull Jr., and Dusty (Seppuku), thank you for contributing to the team effort heart and soul!
Also a huge thanks to Ranger and Blitz for effective and most importantly fun leadership! Big thanks to Professor for doing the homework and crafting the scenarios into a very unique and interesting Op!

To our Enemies:
You still prove to be deadly and elusive combatants making every yard gained and held a pure pain in the butt! You've had quite a streak of victories, Black Hawk Down, Takur Ghar, and Shahikot. But your luck will change. The American's will be able to drop troops unharrassed via choppers into LZ's scattered around the field in battles to come(Thanks professor :) ). We will eventually figure out artillery strikes that can decimate and entire grid location killing all within (once every 15 minutes). We will also eventually have Apache gunship support allowing for 5 minutes of uncontested and unmolested air support (once every half an hour). These changes may at first be upsetting and possibly denounced as "unfair" but you will adapt and respect the firepower the US brings to the table when it goes to war. So savor these victories because these happy days are sure to end!! :)

In closing, awesome job to everyone we'll see you next time,

Kenuch

p.s. Oh, and the artillery and gunships thing was just me daydreaming :)

[Vigilante]

no, that was me about 20 minutes into the game :)


ah, nvm, read that wrong, but anyway, did you find your shoe? You should take 2 pairs along.......

[Brigdh]

couldn't recover it. its ok though.

[OverKill]

p.s. Oh, and the artillery and gunships thing was just me daydreaming :)

but you guy's may need them ;)

good game everyone

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Oh, and for the record, in my opinion blitz did an extraordinary job as the leader of 10th mountain, as in taking opinions from people, getting everyone involved etc. etc....

[Dogboy]

Actually, Kenuch's idea of artillery could be done pretty easily. You just grid out the field map, plop an OC into the grid to be shelled, and radio that OC when it takes place. The OC then relates to anyone in that area that they have been hit, and need to regen.
It may need a little fine tuning, but I think it would work great.

[Kenuchfleck]

Even if the OC had to move from one grid location to the next that could emulate the time delay between calling the strike and it actually being delivered. I personally love this idea!

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

People in buildings would survive, i assume?

[OverKill]

I like the idea as well. but just like in a real strike there are surivers and miss hits in the shelling

[Kenuchfleck]

That's the beauty of it, it would be totally up to the OC, he could spare one man in a trench while the other is dead, he could say the shelter you were in suffered a direct hit and everyone inside is dead, if the team who called the strike had camrades on the border of the grid location they might even suffer casualties themsleves... So on and so forth

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

I really do like this idea. If it's gonna be up to the OC as to who dies, than this would have no place in a "1 shot, 1 kill, no respawn" game like the 2nd half of yesterday was...just pointing out the obvious.

[Kenuchfleck]

Gruz, yes absolutly, you wouldn't use this is the "one hit and you're out" portion of any game. I actually intended this artillery thing to help any team tasked with assualting thin out dug in defenders to help the pace of the game. Also, so that the assaulting team wouldn't need the 3-1 numerical odds historians would say is necessary for successful assaults (I tend to agree). It might also help put the fear of God into someone to get moving who just wants to sit in a building all day and be impervious to everything..