Wargame Field Skirmish 1-29-06

[garyb]

Sunday Jan 29th 2006, start time 10am ending 3pm, field will be open at 830am.
Drug Wars, will be the theme.
Supplies, sodas, snacks, MRE's will be available.
Cost $15.00 per player.

[newMP5user]

MRE's? ....... sign me up



p.s. should i bring the drugs? haha jk

[Vigilante]

Jon, please don't joke about drugs on the board, and another it is illegal. I thought you were going to the game on the 28th though, unless you can make it to both?

[newMP5user]

look at it this way... people that use drugs are jokes in the first place.. so there for i can make fun of them for destroying their life. im gonna try to make both yes.

[Ameoba Grande]

My arm is healing up so i should be able to make it to this one

[Dover]

I've nothing better to do, so I'll be there.

[demonmutiny]

sounds fun, if im not at my dads ill see about going to this one

[The_Jackal]

Wow Vigilante you need to take that stick out of your ass before it gets infected.

[SigPro552]

I'm in.

[nemesis]

when is some info comming up on this game?

[garyb]

This game is being hosted by Van Queen, some of you met him at the game on the 8th. He is a vet of the Gulf war and this scenairo is a take off on an operation that he took part in.
This is what I have so far,
US Ranger units have been tasked to raid a Terroist Training/Drug manufacturing camp. The Rangers will need to capture prisoners, destroy the Drug plant and collect intel on weapons and equipment at the training camp.
More details will follow.
There will be a raffle at this game, possibably an AEG, and other items will be given away.

[Professor]

Hooyah! You can bet the SAS want in on this one! Shoot-n-lootin is our kinda fun.

[nemesis]

ice will go as non U.S military so you have some people to try and shoot

[Professor]

Oh good, stationary targets ;) :o

[knob]

Prof, is that your new name for snipers? lol ;)

[Zorro]

I fully intend on being there. Now I just need to clear it with work.

[element365]

Wow, its the day after CQB. I'll see if I feel up for it.

[neo57601]

I will be attending also, hopefully with a few friends.

[sloppy joe]

ill see how my work scheduel looks, but i intend on going, maybe with a few more guys.

[Lightning Fast 09]

you can bet that i will be at this one

[Freeze]

We'll see if I come, though the other God members may come as well.

[crimtonic]

awsome! an AEC, with a CQB after, and two games in a row! i'm in. as will be my friend and our fathers i assume.

[Crisis]

i'm coming, and i'd like to propose that we use armbands for ID, the code thing is getting quite dull and armbands are very easy, i'll even buy and bring them if need be.

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Put me down for this one, i'm 90% sure I can make this :) .

[Roadkill]

I'll be tagging along with Gruzniak, if he makes it. I would like to be on the U.S. side, but just throw me were ever you need me, but in the process try not to break my gun. I cant afford another one.

[Professor]

So Van...where are the pics from the last skirm, eh 'ole chap?

[Vigilante]

So Van...where are the pics from the last skirm, eh 'ole chap?


Don't hold your breath.

[Vanac]

So Van...where are the pics from the last skirm, eh 'ole chap?

Are you talking about me? Or another person named 'van'?

[Fish]

Im 99% sure he mean Van Queen.

[crimtonic]

for arm bands why not just different colored tapes you could just wrap around a persons arm?

[nemesis]

i think if you want to work something out with arm bands you should bring a ton for your team and not try and convince an oc to do it if he wanted to do it he would do it already this is not paintball we dont have to do what paintballers do and wear bands the person who organizes the skirm will decide how to tell the different teams apart

[knob]

I think that using armbands will take away from the realism. Using the codes are alot more practical if you want to keep this more of a Milsim game.

[Roadkill]

Are there any types of camo requirements for certain teams yet? I think armbands would be kinda useful but cheesy, I am not one to talk but i personally like Mil-Sim games my self.

[Vigilante]

for arm bands why not just different colored tapes you could just wrap around a persons arm?

We had that at the game in Illinois, blue for americans, red for russians. They helped, but they also gave away the enemy too, just do to the fact those two colors stand out. You should learn who is all on your team and as people said, use codes and what not.

[knob]

Well it wont be so bad if the colors are subdued(sp) to a color that basicaly blends in better.

[Beasthunter33]

I dont know if any of you guys realize but in real militaries most have their countries flag sewn onto the sleeve of their uniforms. Kind of obvious, not as much as a hot pink armband but the idea does have some base in reality.

[demonmutiny]

yah, but umm little prob with htoughs flags... were all in america right now, so i would think if we had a u.s flag, we all would..... just saying.... and for the armband i have no prob with them, if your seen because of it, well its gonna happen sooner or later and mostly you will see there armband

[nemesis]

just for your info when another person kills an american soldier and steals thier uniform they have an american flag on thier arm too or does he take it off??? cuz i am pretty sure that he does not call a time out to sew his countries flag on his arm

[Doc]

Most games have assigned camo types for each team. If someone doesn't have the camo type for their team because they don't have the camo or have to dress for cold weather, I think earthtone colored armbands would be a good idea.

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

As someone else said, if the armbands are like forest green, or brown or something like that it would be fine, but running around with orange, red, blue, brighter green, well really a lot of other color armbands would be lame.

[Fish]

How many american soldiers uniforms are really stolen off the dead body? Gear i can understand but the actual bloody clothes?

[nemesis]

more than you think and not ever one who gets shot is automatically in a blood covered uniform

[SMOKE]

Smoke Will Arrive

[Crisis]

its just a proposition, i dont post here to argue with people. if you want to shout code words thats fine, i'm used to it, lets not drag the thread on about this subject.

[Ben]

I really think we should at least TRY the armband idea. I mean it isnt realisitic to have somalian terrorists wearing woodland camo either. I dont see what the big deal in wearing different color armbands like black and brown would be. Even if it isnt a USA VS. Terrorist game, maybe a USA VS. USSR, there still would be different uniforms in real life. And dont tell me that every foot soldier pics clothes off the enemies in the battlefield and puts them on. As for the different camo for different teams, that never has really worked. No one has a big enough collection of different camos to work so you always get exceptions to the uniform. I think for the most realism we should have both team camoflage distinguising AND armbands of neutral colors like black green or brown.

[nemesis]

No One Said Every Soldier Picks Uniforms Off Of Dead But It Does Happen

but if the person putting on the game wants to do that then he should prepare it... it really isnt up to us

i think you should message the person who is making the game and make the comment instead of trying to publicly change his game on him

and i am not going to wait untill you are 10 ft in front of me so i can pick out the color of your arm band that prolly blends in with your uniform to shoot you. chances are you will still need codes with colors so close to the backround.

[Professor]

Unfortunately, as of late in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, there are many instances of dead US soldiers bodies being stripped for their uniforms so the enemy can use them to imposter US forces.

Now, given that so what...the arm band issue is like a "holy war" for some...I like MACs and I like MS Windows as an example. For whatever reason the outcome has been to default to uniform differences and codes to distinguish friend or foe. Which in many cases does replicate "real battle" scenarios in which the enemy can look like your forces or vice versa. I don't disagree that some kind of arm band concept would reduce friendly fire incidents, but there are enough people that don't want to use them. Both sides of the equation have valid points.

Finally, if you want to use arm bands then fine. Either do so amongst your team or be the person that is setting up the skirmish and make them a requirement. Those who don't mind wearing them will show up for it and those that don't won't.

[Ben]

I wasnt trying to change the rules of this game or command gary to use armbands i was just saying since it's never been tried maybe some people could at least try it once. I know in other states armbands are extremely common and default for some places. I'm just sick of being at games and then people abusing the "fog of war" and making the game more unrealistic.

[Professor]

Hey Ben...I wasn't saying you were. I understand your feelings. Sorry if my comment came off wrong...it wasn't intended that way. My comment wasn't even specificaly targeted at you, but basically a comment to the thread as a whole.

[Fish]

After stumbling into the enemy camp at RR due to a misunderstanding on the radio, I am happy for a lack of armbands. It saved me a word of hurt for all of umm.... three seconds.

[DKruse]

On orginal topic: Gary, will an AEC be required? (I know you were saying you may be requiring it, so thought i'd ask before saying we are coming :P )

On second "arm band" topic: At an event (forgot which one) we actually used some green duct tape and put it on our shoulder for two teams of the entire huge team (it wasn't a full roll, so we ran out) but it was only a 2x2 in square, nothing complicated/too unreal.

[garyb]

As for the AEC question, if you have not had the AEC please contact me and I will set up my supplemental safety briefing. This will take about 20 minutes before the start of the game. This if for anyone under 18 who has not had the AEC, anyone over 18 may take this if they wish.
The armband topic has been taken into acount, it will not be used at this coming game, but possibably for certain games in the future.
Any further comments can be taken to its own thread, please.

[Lightning Fast 09]

hey Gary is there any new information on the skirmish yet?

[garyb]

All further intel will be given out at the game on the 29th.
Teams will be assigned at that time.

[nemesis]

aww man we cant reserve spots on teams?

[garyb]

You can put in a request, but from what Van told me there will be an attacking side on the first game then reverse roles on next skirmish.

[garyb]

Anyone with sniper rifles may want to bring them for this skirmish. They will be put to good use, the proper way. If you have one and want to use it let me know. We will need several sniper teams.

[Ameoba Grande]

I know this sounds noobish but once we get to the field where would we sign up and gear up exactly?

[Vigilante]

Well you can gear up anywhere in the safe zone, I usually hog a picnic table under the thing. Only myself and I and a friend use that picnic table, but first come first serve, sign up is at the red shack right before the entrance to the field itself. Gary will be standing inside, if this isnt clear enough, just ask one of us there and we will point u in the right direction.

[The_Jackal]

Yes...this friend will be coming to this event......I hope.....I mean, yes I'll be there.

[crimtonic]

my only request is that my little 4 man group stays on the same team.

[nemesis]

my only request is that my little 4 man group stays on the same team.

generally it is not an issue to get your group onto a team

[BoomShakalaka]

No promises, but I might be showing up with a friend who's never played before, I'll be sure to go over the rules with him if we do end up going. Hope to see you guys there.

[Professor]

So, RANGERS taking down a drug and training camp...where do Brits fit in? Should we dress the part of Tangos? Ya know, Shemaghs and all...

[Kerrik13]

Just wanted to let Gary know that we will have a few coming up from baraboo, possibly 4-6. We would require the mini-AEC at the beginning before we can start the game though, if that is an option.

I wanted bring up the idea of us bringing our medic armbands to the event. We used white armbands to heal people that were hit at the first Blood Gulch (i think it was blood gulch) and I believe it worked out pretty well. I'm not a big fan of the deck of cards medic rules, so I wanted to ask Gary how he will handle regens in the game on Sunday. Even if we don't use them, I will bring them just in case (we have a red nylon bag with TONS of white strips of cloth for bandages).

My team will be showing up dressed in woodland and using basic Army equipment, but we will also be bringing some second hand clothing to throw on if we are the OPFOR. Maybe if everyone brings some crappy old clothes we can start an OPFOR stash at some fields. :P

[nemesis]

gary is not running the game he is just relaying the info from van so i dont think it is up to him

[SigPro552]

If I remember correctly, which isn't always the case, I beieve Van said that if you get shot you are dead for that phase of the mission. No clue as to how many phases there are.

[Professor]

Nemisis - your signature is longer than yer posts...you may wanna consider trimming it down a bit, eh?

[nemesis]

sure is this a little better i trimmed it down a little so now i dont have like 3 paragraphs just a few sentences

[Professor]

Ahhh, now that's better.

[garyb]

Anyone needing the Safety course please get there as soon as possible then let me know when you do get there. This will take about 20-25 minutes.
You can bring your medic armbands if you wish however I dont know if you will need then I believe that Van said they would be no regends, but several different phases in the game.

[garyb]

additional info on the game click on below site.
Map provided of the skirmish area.
http://www.freewebs.com/gwblum/fieldmap.htm

[Ameoba Grande]

Is the light green area around the yellow the boundarys?

[youth in asia]

hello. i would just like to say that me and my sniper rifle are now commited to coming to this game. i would like to be on the US side, but it doesnt really matter that much. me and two other people will be there nice and early (hopefully) to attend your supplemental AEC. My only wish is that my new MP5 and gear come by sunday so i will have a sidearm! :s :cry: :] ;)

[nemesis]

i should have a sniper rifle or 2 to use for the game not sure if i want to do sniping for sure though

we will see how i feel and how gas is doing on sunday i guess

[garyb]

Light green is the open field, yellow is the base camp and the dk green is the woods.

[Beasthunter33]

So is the safezone anywhere on this map I am having a hard time vizualizing it in my head. Thanks

Oh ok, NVM I think I figured it out thanks anyways though.

[garyb]

Do not worry the whole thing will be explained sunday

[Freeze]

so far me and Kennedy are coming, I'm gonna bring the Sniper Rifle I got to see what it shoots as well bringing my M16 to see how it shoots now that the hop-up is actually working now lol

[Professor]

There will be a decent showing of Echoians and most will be dressing the part of Tangos. Gotta have a wee bit of change now and then ya know, eh chaps.

[Destro]

A couple of my team who are right on the IL/WI border may be coming up to this game. I met a few of you guys at the last CAA game (I was the Russian team leader- Ivan Drago aka Destro).

I would come myself but I don't have a babysitter- not to mention I'll wait for a bigger game to do the 3 hour + each way trip. Just figured I'd let you know a couple of my guys are probably heading up your way Sunday.

Cheers!
~Destro

PS- the two coming were both at the WWIII game, one was the Bravo squad leader, the other his right hand man. :-)

[nemesis]

always glad to see more people at games

[newMP5user]

sadly i cannot go to this skirm. i need to figure out what is still wrong with my gearbox. besides im going to upgrade some things i think.

besides im getting a cat on sunday.

[Ameoba Grande]

Whats up with the weather factor. Are we still playing if its raining? Because i hear its supposed to rain all weekend.

[Vigilante]

Yes, we will still play if there is rain, the rain shouldnt be too heavy for tomorrow, but just a tad bit, just clean your gun thoroughly when you get home.

[garyb]

I will be there no matter what the weather.
Just dress for the weather, what I have seen on the weather channel it is supposed to be light, and scattered.

[nemesis]

sounds good i will be there with a few guys

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

"If you're afraid of getting a little wet and dirty, than you're playing the wrong sport." :]

[DKruse]

5 from Wolf Recon (previously Silver Wolves) as well. We will be there early to take the supplemental AEC (about 9ish I think is what time we plan on being there, if that's alright with you.)

[garyb]

that is fine just see me as soon as you get there so I can start the safety course

[nemesis]

we should have a group of 3 comming in one car and a group of 3 comming in another

[youth in asia]

alright guys... bad news.... my sniper was making a funny noise today so when i took it apart i found that the plastic stock spring guide stopper had broken in half, so i wont be able to snipe tomarrow. i will still be there w/ my sr16, but i was really looking forward to sniping :cry: oh well, perhaps next time. :]

[Kerrik13]

Where do you go to get the War Game Room waivers so we can get them signed?

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Where do you go to get the War Game Room waivers so we can get them signed?

If my memory serves me right, gary normally stands in a little booth near the entrance in the field in which he holds food, drinks, and extra waivers.

[Ben]

I believe he wants to see this:


http://thewargameroom.com/waiver.pdf

[nemesis]

it looks like it is going to be wet be prepared and hope to see you there

[Ameoba Grande]

i mean its just a little wet

[Sanchez]

Hope u guys are ready to get DIRTY!! see u guys there in a few hours hope to be a good skirm :D

[Professor]

Sorry guys but when I woke it was pouring so I and a few other Echoians won't be there. Didn't really think the game would go on.

[neo57601]

WOW GUYS GREAT GAME! The renactment was a little weird, and i dident like having to lose but the capture the flag game after was awsome!

[Vigilante]

Yea, I thought it would rain all day, but stopped, I dont think that bit of pouring will hurt my gun too much eh? But great game though.

[Ameoba Grande]

the rain seemed to stop once the first game started. It was my first time there and it was very fun. You all were very nice to me and my friends. Thanks for the fun time

[Lightning Fast 09]

wow what a great game. aside from the light rain early the day was great. i met some new guys today and i must say everyone is just awesome. the final charge in the ctf game was nuts we got overwhelmed so fast. i had a great time today.

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

haha, game was sweet I met some new people, and talked more with people I already knew, the final charge against us was ridiculous, hopefully the CTF was a sample of how awesome op: blood gulch is gonna be!

[DKruse]

Awesome game! I don't know if Van (that was the person's name who was running the games correct?...) reads these forums, but gary, next time you see him, tell him thanks for the great objectives, and thanks for letting us play on your land again. (pave over that stinking swamp land in the back :P).

But one sad thing, I lost my just opened 5000 count .25 Matrix BBs... The sticker on it is a desert type camo with "Matrix" .25 5000 count bbs or such on it. I think I had it on a table and someone might have grabbed it thinking it was there? Any information please PM me.

[nemesis]

thanks for the game it was fun...

gary thanks for letting us use the land for the day

[garyb]

Thanks to everyone who attended, the day turned out better weather wise then I thought it would.
Great attendence over 40 people braved the weather.
One item was left at the safe area, a Field Jacket, let me know if it belongs to you.
Thanks Gary

[Roadkill]

Yea, the game was awsome. The turnout was great, especially seeing that it was raining cats and dogs the day before and rain in the forcast. Great to meet a few new people especially Rabid Penguins, and the Diaper talk with Gary, Ben, Gruzniak and I. I had a great time, thanks.

[garyb]

A Gas pistol was turned in after the game let me know if anyone lost one.

[Fish]

I lost a vert grip for my M4. It is od green and brown. I highly doubt it will ever be found but should anyone find it I would appreciate it.

[Professor]

Hey Gary...I wasn't there but I'll take the pistol ;)

[garyb]

OK, tell me what type it is and its yours

[DKruse]

gas? :D Nope, only thing I lost was my BBs :( oh well, I guess someone gets 5000 never used high grade .25 BBs and I get a bill for another 10,000 BBs... eh, oh well.