Wargame Field 1-8-06 Skirmish

[garyb]

Sunday Jan 8th 2006 start time 10am ending at 3pm.
Briefing starts at 930am field will be open at 830am
At the Wargame Field in Batavia Wi click on the (Wargame Room) below for maps and waivers.
All players will need to sign waivers for the new year.
Cost $15.00 per player
Title- "The Great Seal Hunt" US Seal Teams attempt to evade and escape from Soviet SF and Militia forces.

[Fish]

I just wanna say you are doing an incredible job at fulfilling the promise of a game at least every other weekend Gary. You smaller scale skirms are a load of fun too. They are a refreshing break from paintsoft.

[Vigilante]

Well, I wouldnt call them small, but not large, alot of people do show up to many of them. I'm in as always.

[SigPro552]

I'll be attending as well.

[Ameoba Grande]

i hopefully will be attending with like 5 of my friends

[Dover]

Gary, You can count on me being there. If you need some help setting up or running the event, let me know.

[RTO]

Sorry, I'll be in california (hopefully) from the 5th - 11th. I'd love to make it to this if things flop over on me. And I do agree, the smaller scale ones are the shiznit.

[Zorro]

Assuming there are no other conflicts, I will be there.

[Lightning Fast 09]

i shall be attending and i have a friend who is coming too.

[madhaTTer]

I suppose ill go. I havent been to a game in a long ass time.

[Ameoba Grande]

i guess now i cant go because i snapped my upper arm in half in gym class. I was really hoping to go to this skirmish.

[Vigilante]

That's a bummer, hope you get better soon.

[taucher]

Sorry my crew cant go thats like 2 hours away maybe next time though. Hay you guys now any fields close to Illinois becaus i would have to drive all my idiots.

[Vigilante]

If you want to know what fields are all in illinois, go on the CAA site. Don't stray from the subject of the threads.

I know people that go from northern Il. They make it once and a while.

[Freeze]

2 hours to long ? G.O.D. is in Green Bay, it takes us two hours to get to the field, even when we get there for the breifing, we're still there. And thanks to me we've actually been getting there earlier. lol

Anyway, I'm not sure about going, maybe next game. We'll see on the 7th if I feel like shooting people in the cold lol.

[nemesis]

2 hours to long ? G.O.D. is in Green Bay, it takes us two hours to get to the field, even when we get there for the breifing, we're still there. And thanks to me we've actually been getting there earlier. lol

Anyway, I'm not sure about going, maybe next game. We'll see on the 7th if I feel like shooting people in the cold lol.

two hours??? you must be doing 10 mph under the limit it takes us about an hr and a half and we do only about 5 over

[knob]

dont give our secret away!!!

[nemesis]

sorry dont worry though i didnt tell them the whole thing

(about the fact that we use a 1983 suburban) but shhhh dont tell anyone

[Freeze]

no we just stop at McD's for breakfast lol

[nemesis]

we may be at the game

[Professor]

Looks like we have tha makins for at least a squad! At least four if not more, eh chaps.

[Vigilante]

So far, from what it seems, there is about 7. Granted this game is still 3 weeks away, I think it shall be a wonderful turnout.

I will also see if I can get my friends to join as well, they have never played in a real game, but really want too.

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

So far, from what it seems, there is about 7. Granted this game is still 3 weeks away, I think it shall be a wonderful turnout.

I will also see if I can get my friends to join as well, they have never played in a real game, but really want too.



This game is barely over a week away...

[Vigilante]

This game is barely over a week away...


Well, 2 weeks away, I forgot today is wednesday, so basically a week and a half away. I am sorry my counting abilities fail me at the most opportune times....

[Freeze]

and its winter break, who needs to remember academic stuff now, of all times ?

[newMP5user]

i WILL be there seeings how i got sundays off from now on!

can we get a list of whose all going so far? (add me)

[Vigilante]

and its winter break, who needs to remember academic stuff now, of all times ?

Well, I am not in school anymore.

As far as who is going soo far.

Me(Vigilante)
Ice #'s?
gruzniak-Maybe?
Jon
Echo #'s?
GOD #'s?


It looks like a possible 10 so far, that is just a guestimate.

[nemesis]

ICE should have 5+ going we will get a full count when time comes closer

[Mr. Crow]

I am a big puss when it comes to cold. So if it's not too bad and my gun is ready, I think I will make this one.

[garyb]

The teams will be assigned on a first come first serve basis.
The teams will be US Seals, Soviet SF, and Soviet Militia.
Remember if you are under 18 and have not had the AEC please get there early so you can take the Safety Briefing, I will be there around 830am, this safety briefing will take around 20-25 minutes. This is in addition to the Game Briefing that will start before the game.

[Lightning Fast 09]

just 10 days until the event i will try to keep everyone as up to date as possible with the weather. weather for the 8th is 30 for the high with mostly cloudy skies as of Dec. 30th at Adell and 30 for the high with cloudy skies as of Dec. 30th at Cascade. so remember to dress for the weather.

[sloppy joe]

ill hopefully be attending with 3 of my firends.

[Lightning Fast 09]

alright with 9 days until the event we have a weather update. high of 28 with a few snow showers at Adell for the 8th and high of 28 with snow showers at Cascade. sorry but those are the closest cities i can get the weather for the moment but as we close in on the day i will have more accurate weather.

[Professor]

Thanks Lightening, but we all know where to find www.weather.com Save the posting effort

[spraynpray]

I am going to try and make it. I asked off so we will see if I actually get the day off or not. I should know by this weekend.

[Lightning Fast 09]

ok prof, just trying to be helpful. and just fyi its spelled Lightning. see you guys at the field

[The_Jackal]

I might show up for this event. Im not sure becuase I have placement testing all day on Saturday and I may be dead. :)

[Iceman]

ugh... i haven't been to a game since Bounty Hunter Wars (minus CQB). I think I'll have to make this one. Count me in, and possibly another two (Valentine and Maskedjellybean)

[Vanac]

From Iceman:
TFD will be on the Seals.

[nemesis]

ICE has 9 going could you get all of us together on one team???

[spraynpray]

Well I did not get the weekend off so I will be unable to make it but I am hoping to come on the 29th. Have fun everyone!!!!!! :D

[Crisis]

I'm coming

[newMP5user]

what are the clothing requirements/weapon requirements for the different teams? if it works out ill be seals

[Vigilante]

what are the clothing requirements/weapon requirements for the different teams? if it works out ill be seals


As Gary reitterated at other games, dress in what will keep you warm. Weapon requirements are silly, bring what you have and have fun!

[garyb]

Game Concept-
Seal Platoon 15 will be incerted into AO Batavia. The Platoon will consist of several Seal teams whos mission will be to destroy as many of the 15 identified structures in the AO as possible.
Soviet Special Forces units have been dispatched to the area to reinforce the militia units in the area. These SF units are engineer trained and are searching for the Seals and trained to deactivate the Demo that the Seals possess.
The Seal teams will recieve points for the number of structures destroyed while the Soviets will recieve points for the number of Seals captured.

The field will be open at 830am, it will be first come first to pick the teams they wish to be on.
Everyone must bring a Red Kill rag, if you forget or need one they will be available for sale at the field.
There is no uniform requirement, dress for the weather, and probably muddy conditions.

[Professor]

Gary - I think Echo's count is up to between 5 or 6. See ya there...

[Mr. Crow]

I am a big puss when it comes to cold. So if it's not too bad and my gun is ready, I think I will make this one.

Gun won't be ready and my inlaws are now coming, so I have to bail. I am such a tool.

[perculator]

I.C.E. Squad B's names of people going

Perculator
Boy Scout
Wade
Ed
Scrags
Evan
Steph

[nemesis]

ICE A team names going
Highlighter
LFM
Nemesis
Brian
Knob

[knob]

dont fall in the creek this time, robert...

[spraynpray]

Well I managed to get off work early on sunday so if Gary doesnt mind me bein late I'll be there.

[Professor]

Gary, Echo would like to respectfully request a spot on the sea, air, and land bourne operators platoon please, 'ole chap.

[neo57601]

Hey guys this is going to be my first match. any sugestions on stuff to bring or stuff i need to do? Im really looking forward to seeing you all on the field.
Tony

[Razor]

Hey guys this is going to be my first match. any sugestions on stuff to bring or stuff i need to do? Tony

Probably change of socks and a few plastic bags to throw wet stuff in, probably going to be real wet out there. Plan for the cold.

[Lightning Fast 09]

hey tony check out this thread (http://www.wiairsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488&highlight=winter) for some cold weather tips. see you at the field.

Lightning 09

[Professor]

Echo's count has dropped by two as a result of colds/flu. I believe that brings us to a count of four.

[Vigilante]

I will be going for sure, but I cannot use my AK as it stopped shooting again, I guess I will whip out the mp5 pdw!

[Zorro]

I will oficially be there, and I will also be bringing a friend.

[nemesis]

i will be sporting a few guns depending on the weather

every thing from the mp5k to the ca33e

[Professor]

Well, our count may have grown again with some "blasts from the pasts" to maybe 6 again.

[henry900]

So far 3 of us are coming. See you guys there.

[Vigilante]

Well, all I can say is, wow, what a great game. I thought there wouldn't be a whole lot of shooting, but there was shooting practically the entire game. The spetz had the seals on the run for a bit then some defected and we swept the field in no time. Before that, the spetz basically went seal clubbing. Great game all, looking forward to the 29th!

On another note, my AK worked through most of it, cept for the small game at the end, now I can scrap it for my upcoming project.

[Zorro]

Today was AWESOME! Firefights nearly the entire day, and still enough time to strategize. It was a very fun day.

[henry900]

GG guys me and my bro had a blast. Nice meeting alote of you guys to. See you guys the 29th. :D

[Dover]

I hope everyone else had as much fun as I did! What a great game! The seals were getting clubbed in the beginning, but we came back and started doin the clubbing. Thanks to everyone on the seals team for watchin my back. Good Game all. See you on the 29th!

[Lightning Fast 09]

sorry guys i couldn't make this one. my friend got grounded so he couldn't go and my parents wouldn't let me go alone so i will try to get to the one on the 29th. although i was there at the end so some of you might have seen me.

[neo57601]

Hey guys SUPER DAY! wow i knew that today would be fun but i had no idea
that it was that cool. my guns are kinda crapy but that dident stop me from having fun! THANKS RAZOR for lending my your gun for part of that one game. Today rocked. hopefully the 29th will be the same.

[Maus]

Thank you Gary once again for the use of your field, and for the great op!!

[crimtonic]

well damnit just my luck. both of the last games i was at were cold, slow moving and deeply lacking in heavy fire fights. the one time i can't attend it's a rocking game!?... figuers.... :cry: :cry:

[Vigilante]

well damnit just my luck. both of the last games i was at were cold, slow moving and deeply lacking in heavy fire fights. the one time i can't attend it's a rocking game!?... figuers.... :cry: :cry:

Well, all the games are excellent.


On a lighter note, what was the official headcount from the game today?

[Lightning Fast 09]

hey Vigilante i think it was 39 people.

[garyb]

The official count was 39.
The points were Seals 15, Soviets 17, so the day went to the Soviets.
The way it looked in the morning the Seals were taking a beating but they came back in the True Seal Tradition in the afternoon.
The game on the 29th should be as good if not better. It will be hosted by Van Queen, some of you met him today. He is a vet of the Gulf war and a retired member of the Rangers. This is a take from an op that he took place in in Iraq. We have been working out the details and it sounds great. MOre details will be posted on the thread for that game.

[Bucket]

it was a good game, but my mind is wondering why we had to pay $15 with no raffle, isnt it usually $10 w/o raffle, just wondering

[nemesis]

the game was great... i loved being a militia in the beginning capturing 2 groups of 4 and 2 on my own was awesome. i didnt think militia would be so fun... then switching to the seals in the other half and sweeping the field was great too... didnt think that 4 people could make such a big difference...

thanks for the great game and field time gary

and every one else for coming to the game and making it so fun

[Professor]

Great game Gary...I especially liked the "touch" of the detonator having to be added to the charge, but our tubes leaked :( For some reason I'm sore all over...what did that old Lady do to us captured SEALs? :o

Thanks again...hope to be there on the 29th.

[garyb]

From What she told me, I can not post on these forums, but I am sure that your death would not have been pleasant, maybe that is why you are sore today. She looked pretty tough to me.

[banshee]

That was a pretty good game. Thanks Gary, hopefully I'll be at the 29th along with a few other TFD guys.

[madhaTTer]

Wow, I guess I was logged in as Banshee. That last post ^^^.... was from me.

[Iceman]

Great game Gary- haven't had a chance to get out for a game in a while. Playing as the SEALS was a blast, and it was a really interesting premise for game objectives. Thanks to my SEAL teammates and everybody else who was there too!

[Guerilla Dan]

Did I go to this game...can't...remember....bananas......c...bleet.

[ChavezDing]

Hi Guys,

Sounds like a great game you had. How did your batteries perform this time around? Did the temperature affect the AEGs? What was the game time temp?


Thanks,

Ding

[Vanac]

Weather has nothing to do with a batteries life, this is commonly mis-understood. AEG's will preform just as well in cold as they would in warm temperature. Its gas guns that do not work as well.

[Vigilante]

Well batteries tend to just operate a bit slower and cycle or w/e. It just seems like the ROF drops as the battery is cold, thats all. It was a nice day out so the battery life was not affected too horribly.

[nemesis]

You do not lose power faster in the winter but when the battery is cold the battery does not (in essense) feed as well... there for it seems the battery is dead

all you need to do is warm up your battery again and it works

that was a problem especially with 600mhz batteries a couple games ago

[seppuku]

Weather has nothing to do with a batteries life, this is commonly mis-understood. AEG's will preform just as well in cold as they would in warm temperature. Its gas guns that do not work as well.Actually cold weather does decrease the amount of juice you will get out of your battery. If anyone is exceptionally bored, check out Panasonic's Nickel Metal Hydride Handbook (http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_NiMH_Overview.pdf). Here is what they say about the affects of temperature on discharge rate/effeciency:

The discharge voltage and discharge efficiency decrease in proportion as the current rises or the temperature drops.
I think the guys at OnlyBatteryPacks (http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/) state that you'll see 30-40% drop in effeciency. From my personal experience with using an 1100mah 8.4V mini NiMH battery pack in a upgraded G36 in freezing temperatures resulted in about 50% of what I got out of it when the weather was more pleasant.

[perculator]

well my New WA Infinity SV, and my M700 made their way out on the field on sunday. when I tapped off my gas and kept my mag in my vest pouch with boot warmers they worked super. I think I also left my pistol mag in my gun for half the game, and when ammo ran out in my G36. She was there to throw out 26 more rounds flawlessly. Great game, The end got really one sided. I believe when the spetz and the militia took a head count in J we had about 7-8 guy..... Seals had about 17. Thanks again gary and I dont mind paying 15 dollars a game. Just wondering though, is that going towards building supplies?

[garyb]

The Cost does include building supplies for the new CQB house that is coming this spring. There will be plenty of raffles coming in the future, the next one will be the 29th, hopefully an aeg plus other goodies.

[Maus]

Hi Guys,

Sounds like a great game you had. How did your batteries perform this time around? Did the temperature affect the AEGs? What was the game time temp?


Thanks,

Ding

Ill answer your question directly. Game temp was low to mid 30s not 8° like it was for the battle you attended. There was a bit of a breeze so standing still during the briefing was a bit harsh. Mini battery in my MP5SD worked great the entire game.

btw..see you Sunday the 15th.

[Beasthunter33]

Ill answer your question directly. Game temp was low to mid 30s not 8° like it was for the battle you attended. There was a bit of a breeze so standing still during the briefing was a bit harsh. Mini battery in my MP5SD worked great the entire game.

btw..see you Sunday the 15th.

Man I wish my friend would have come to this game with me, sounds like you guys had a blast. I do agree with the standing around part, whenever I was waiting for the next round my hands would get so cold, but the minute I got into the field and those trees broke up the wind, I would have to start peeling off layers, just walking around helped too.

[seppuku]

Ill answer your question directly. Game temp was low to mid 30s not 8° like it was for the battle you attended. There was a bit of a breeze so standing still during the briefing was a bit harsh. Mini battery in my MP5SD worked great the entire game.

btw..see you Sunday the 15th.Sorry, I was also going to respond to ChavezDing, but Maus summed it up pretty well. I also didn't have any problems with battery life; aside from a fingers going numb once at the beginning of the day, it turned out to be pretty decent weather for airsoft.

[ChavezDing]

Thanks for all the input. This Sunday is going to be similar as your last game, in the mid 30s. No snow (bummer).

To those attending WW3, looking forward to seeing you there!


Thanks again guys!

Ding

[Ameoba Grande]

sounds like you guys did have a fun time. Now i am really happy because my broke arm. Is feeling alot better i should be able to go to the game on the 29th. If you guys see a kid with a sling on that might be me

[ChavezDing]

BTW:

Did any of you had problem with goggles fogging in this event?

[knob]

It wasn't too much of problem this last game because it was a bit over 30 degrees and the only time mine fogged up was when i was prone..

[Vigilante]

Mine did not fog up, as I use mesh goggles. When I used to use my regular safety glasses in the 8 and 18 degree games a while back, they fogged up horribly, even with the anti fog. Simply all the moisture from breathing.

[Razor]

No fogging here (ESS NVG's).

[SigPro552]

All I have to say is that this was an amazing game. A lot went into planning, and a lot was learned about teamwork. Thanks again Gary, and keep up the good work.

[nemesis]

mine did not fog up to bad and i use regular safety glasses i think this game was the perfect temperature

[knob]

Heres a link to the images from the Game...
http://ironcrosselite.com/home/e107_plugins/autogallery/autogallery.php