Bullet cam ?

[knob]

So, i am thinking of mod'ing my famas so it can accept a "bullet cam" on the handle... THis is the type of camera i am planning on using... http://www.viosport.com/store/customer/ourgear.php?page=ac2_overview

I think it might be pretty simple to installing it... If you take a look at the forward end of the handle on the gun, right where the sights are, if i take those out, maybe i can place the camera there...

What do you guys think?

[Vigilante]

It is a good idea, but on the gun, it would be way too shaky, unless you keep it at a ready position all the time, but a headcam would be more efficient. But, good idea though.

[Raven218]

yea i was lookin into this also. i think its a nice idea but dont have the $ for it. but as vig said a helm cam would work good also. like me i usually have gun pointed down while moving so all you would get is grass. but still good idea

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

Probably wouldn't be the best for entertainment purpose viewing, but I think it would be an excellent way to review after a skirmish to see what you did right and wrong...you know like how sports teams watch film?

[Roadkill]

i think it would be really cool, it would be like DOOM or something like a 1st person shooter. i think the gun view would be cooler than a headcam though. its a neat idea

[SINN FEIN]

Add tracers, and that would be pretty cool to watch.

[Baby Bowser]

Personally I'd be too busy checking the camera every five seconds to make sure it was working, and hadn't been knocked off.

[Jun Wen]

If you were to go with the gun camera idea, I'd set it up so that it isn't recording the entire game. Personally, I can say that my gun is pointed at the ground for most of an event until an opportunity comes up. Once that happens, then it might be interesting to record it, but once you have to run, the camera would be pointed off to nowhere interesting. The usual case I hear for a gun-mounted camera is for pseudo-blind-firing opportunities.
A helmet cam would be something to leave on over the course of a game. you probably won't be staring at the ground all day and you'd have a great view when any surprises come up, like walking into an ambush. That kind of stuff would be cool to review and possibly analyze if the quality is good.

[Ben]

I think it would work okay in maybe an indoor cqc type setting, but outdoors you'd probably want to turn it on and off all the time since you'd be putting your gun down and waiting around a lot inbetween fire fights.

[Maple]

Knob,
As a fellow videographer, I have a few suggestions I'd like to throw out there.
I film a lot of Motorcycling racing/ riding, so I have some experience with "on the move" filming.
A gun cam is a neat idea, but people tend to shift a lot while moving, so the footage will be shaky and filming the ground/ air most of the time.
A helmet cam is another good idea, but like the gun, you move your head a lot more than you'd realize.
My suggestion would be to set up two people with rigs. One a helmet cam, another a gun cam. Have the gun cam mounted to a weaver mount, so you could mount it to any rail system. (a barrel cam, a scope cam, etc.)
I have found that for every hour of footage filmed, I only get between 3-7 minutes worth of useable footage. Sure, you can add footage of the boring stuff, but most people are going to want to see action.
Just my thoughts.

[Raven218]

yea i agree w\ maple. just set up 2 rigs mount it and hope to get soem good stuff.

[knob]

well as far as the camera and the recording device being on.. the kit can come with an optional push button to record, pause and turn the camera on and off. So if there is no action, i can turn it off, then on and press it agian to record..

Then with the camera falling off, or moving around, i think that zip ties would be something that would work if a good rig can be made... I would probably have to fabricate something to make it easy to mount and then remove.. and with the possibility of the camera shaking, It might not really be a problem, because of the size and weight of the gun and the camera altogether. Think of it as using a bigger camera, rather than a handheld. Small hand-held cameras are alot easier to shake..

With the two camera idea, i thought about it after i posted my first post, and thats what i hope to do... For the secondary camera, which will be camera one, I would probably be using a Panasonic mini DVC 3-chip..
I just have to make sure my boss will let me use it for a weekend.
then when i get this "bullet cam" kit, I am probably gonna get something cheap as a recording device like a sony handycam, or whichever that accepts A/V-in. (some don't)

Then maybe later, much later probably, im gonna get another mini dvc cam.
The only problem that i see with a helmet cam rig, is when someone aims, say a m-16 or a famas, or whichever, who ever wears the rig, his/her head isn't really perpendicular with the body, meaning that camera is gonna miss some or most of the action..

I might, and i stress might be able to use a stasis camera rig for the panasonic..
thanks guys for letting me know what you guys think and your concerns.
Definatly gave me some things to keep in mind..

thanks
knob

[Maple]

I found that you can use a flashlight rail adapter to mount the camera to a rail system. Works like a charm. As for the recorder itself, make sure to pad it with foam, zip tie the foam tight around the camera and find a pouch that is just big enough for it, so it won't slide around. (Borrow one of Gruzniak's fanny packs) ;)

[knob]

ya, i was thinking about using an camel back bag for it, just with out the bladder,

[NATHANIELJONESTHUGANGEL]

I found that you can use a flashlight rail adapter to mount the camera to a rail system. Works like a charm. As for the recorder itself, make sure to pad it with foam, zip tie the foam tight around the camera and find a pouch that is just big enough for it, so it won't slide around. (Borrow one of Gruzniak's fanny packs) ;)



Hey, no need to borrow it when I could just sell it to him...

[KA-JJ]

Very Cool idea in my opinion. I think Either a barrel cam or possibly a goggle cam. Somehow mounted to left/right side of goggles and have a FLEXIBLE wire going to possibly a camelback. It would be great to see it out of the barrel also, seeing where the bbs are going. But the goggles cam would be great for seeing what you are looking at while in the action. It coudl be a great training video also. Keep up the great ideas.

[RTO]

I saw on tv some new Tony Hawks Skater cam that you could put on your helmet.... maybe thats an idea? cheaper for sure because its ment for younger kids.. but resolution quality wise and what not, who knows???


modify a PEQ uint and stick it in there maybe?

I'll be a test subject and we can stick it in my peq unit if youd like to try it out? lol

[knob]

are you talking about the one that is made by viosport? or just a cheap knock off?
The cheap one, it only has 32mb of internal memory, and it only records est. 16 min of video at 15 frames per second.. Not really what i would like to watch..

[RTO]

yeah.. see, i didn't know much about it so i didn't want to say it'd be a better idea

[Maus]

Ill sound off here. I have seen rifle scopes in hunting catalogs that have digital cameras in them. I beleive the shutter is activated by the bullet leaving the barrel. Its for deer hunters to take a photo of the one that got away. LOL. Anyway, I was thinking you could hook up a pressure switch behind your trigger. It would activate the cam only when you fire, catching the best of the action everytime. Pressure switches are relativly inexpensive, and seem to come with even the cheapest of laser sights. Just a thought.

[Vigilante]

Wow, I have seen and heard of those camera sets that set up to watch activity of the deer all day, dads friend has some, maybe we all could have something like that at gary's or something. Then we get the video feeds from the day and edit it and take out all the crap and show the action that goes on, just a thought to ponder on.